no, I won't go into details because like I said, they need to be left alone, but they never disappeared completely. They have a tough time of it though. Whitetail deer spred brainworm, hotter than usual summers stress them, and tick borne diseases affect them as well. But hopefully they will come back. If they can start exchanging genes with Michigan's Huron Mountain herd, which is entirely plausible, maybe they can come back.