survivalshop Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Maybe not sized correctly ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelDeVille Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Aside from the other tips, make sure to double check your oal on the loaded round, remember the ogive of different bullet shapes of the same weight can still contact the rifling if not set correctly for the bullet type. How are you crimping? And are you crimping? Are your cases trimmed and trimmed equally? I always crimp rifle round separately from seating. Edited March 4, 2015 by AngelDeVille Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Maybe not sized correctly ? I full length size the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Aside from the other tips, make sure to double check your oal on the loaded round, remember the ogive of different bullet shapes of the same weight can still contact the rifling if not set correctly for the bullet type. How are you crimping? And are you crimping? Are your cases trimmed and trimmed equally? I always crimp rifle round separately from seating. I always check oal of every round, trimmed case to proper length, and I give a slight clip nothing agressive. Read somewhere around here it didn't need much of a crimp. But I crimp all together with the seating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelDeVille Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I always check oal of every round, trimmed case to proper length, and I give a slight clip nothing agressive. Read somewhere around here it didn't need much of a crimp. But I crimp all together with the seating Ok, one less thing to worry about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Only thing I can possibley think of is ehat I said earlier of the cases being over reamed and when the primer ignited instead of shooting everything forward some came back out the primer pocket. I'll try to prime some un reamed case and hopefully it works out if not I'll be reporting back. Thanks for your time guys. I just don't know why with my match brass the primers won't go in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Have you tried other primer brands ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I've tried cci but I don't recall it's been a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripledeuce Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) OK, lets think, Firing once should loosen the PP, not tighten it. two, Federal primers are smaller than most of the others so, the should seat easier..three, primers "clipping" the edge of the PP says, to me, that maybe something is out of alingnment in the primer tool. Dosen't make any difference WHO made the primer tool, it could still be out of spec. Do you have any other way of priming a few cases to check things out? I'v seen similar things with out of spec primer tools. Respectfully Terry OH! CCi are the largest in diameter out there, with Winhester and remington are probably tied as the smallest. Edited March 4, 2015 by Tripledeuce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I measured a bunch of primer diameters ,look in the reloading section for that info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugger43 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Firing once should loosen the PP, not tighten it. two, Federal primers are smaller than most of the others so, the should seat easier..three, primers "clipping" the edge of the PP says, to me, that maybe something is out of alingnment in the primer tool. Dosen't make any difference WHO made the primer tool, it could still be out of spec. I'm betting this is the problem. Dump the priming tool. You are using good brass and primers, and it doesn't sound like a problem with case sizing. (I also like the idea of seating and crimping in two operations, but that's another issue). Sounds to me that the primers are not properly aligned, or they are actually going in a bit of an angle. A deformed primer could certainly lead to a blown out primer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Idk if this helps but here are to diffent match cases. On the left hornady on the right nosler. Both 10 Hornady looks to have an insert or something compared to the nosler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) The Hornady case has their version of a military primer crimp. Edited March 4, 2015 by MikedaddyH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Armory Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Here are some pictures of Lake City / Federal Brass with and without crimps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Ok so then I do need to de crimp them then. Because all my fc and nosler isn't like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelDeVille Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 After you try out your swaging tool I'll bet your problem disappears. Your hand primer should work after that. We won't have to move you to the last bench at the end of the shooting range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Doesn't you press have its own priming attachment ? What are you using to ream the primer pockets? When a Primer crimp is not removed , you can have the primers flatten & deform . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted March 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 It does have its own priming tool on it but I was giving me a tough time and smashing the primers in that's why u opted for the rcbs hand primer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Was this loaded ammo or was the brass bought as empty Cases ? As was said already , if you had a damaged primer seated & didn't notice it , it could blow out also . Use other brass until you get a primer pocket swaging tool . Since you had trouble seating primers with the one on your press , I'm betting on, its the brass. When I asked if the brass was sized correctly , doesn't matter what if FL or SB , it still has to be set correctly or it can cause problems . You powder charge may be on the edge of being too excessive & some brass will take it & some won't . And what did you use to ream the PP ? I sometimes use my RCBS de-burring tool to lightly de-burr the crimp . I have had some brass that would still be hard to seat the primer , even after swaging the PP & its the only way I have found to keep from damaging primers . I have the old small tool that has one end for the inside & the other end for the outside . Edited March 5, 2015 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted March 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I'm using a lyman tool to reem. The press did the same thing to fc brass. I'm waiting to reload anything until I get the rcbs swager. Most of my brass is hornady 1x I got from someone who shot it from a bolt and didn't reload for 308 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Its possible the Match loaded ammo may have a Primer crimp & the FC brass also , I have some that had a Crimp . Might be the whole priming problem you are having . You can definitely over ream a primer pocket or the brass you use for working up loads , gets a good working out , as far as the brass is concerned . I keep my work up brass separate , because of how its used.It only takes one high pressure firing to make the primer pocket useless for further reloading . Fired brass was never meant to be reloaded , it is us reloaders who milk it for more use . Its why I started to Anneal my brass after every firing , before resizing for loading . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Going to have to look into amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted March 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Man ill tell you guys what, praise the Lord for the swager tool! Priming is stupid easy now, smooth as butter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Going to have to look into amazing Here you go Ed; a·maze (ə-māz′) v. a·mazed, a·maz·ing, a·maz·es v.tr. 1. To affect with great wonder; astonish. See Synonyms at surprise. 2. Obsolete To bewilder; perplex. v.intr. To cause great wonder or astonishment: a sight that amazes. n. Amazement; wonder. [From Middle English masen, to bewilder, and from amased, bewildered (from Old English āmasod), both from Old English āmasian, to bewilder : ā-, intensive pref. + *masian, to confuse.] a·maz′ed·ly (ə-mā′zĭd-lē) adv. a·maz′ed·ness n. <laughs> <lmao> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_Ed Posted March 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Lol didn't realize my damn phone changed the word annealing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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