bdavison78613 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 ok so I am new and apologize if this has been discussed. I am starting a build and wanting to know if I can use a LaRue barrel with a Mega Maten upper/lower set? Other barrels I have thought about are Noveske but not sure I want a 16 inch barrel or possible rainier 308 ultramatch.
Fletch Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 I am not 100% sure but I believe those PredatOBR barrels that LaRue offers in 7.62 can only be used with their PredatOBR rifles.
shepp Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 5 hours ago, bdavison78613 said: ok so I am new and apologize if this has been discussed. I am starting a build and wanting to know if I can use a LaRue barrel with a Mega Maten upper/lower set? Other barrels I have thought about are Noveske but not sure I want a 16 inch barrel or possible rainier 308 ultramatch. Welcome to the forum feel free to post in the intro section
D.R.D. Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 I don't even think you can buy a LaRue barrel on its own. I think they only sell the rifle as a whole. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. You can however, buy a barrel that is extremely similar to the barrel LaRue originally used before they started making their own. They were made by Lothar-Walther, and called the "Var-Tac" series of barrels. LW-50 steel, 1:10 twist, Rifle length gas system. I think they are available in 16", 18" & 20" versions and come with a matched nickel boron bolt for around $450. They will surely fit in a Maten upper (From the Mega website: " Designed to accept any AR style .308 barrels and bolts*. This means you can use your AR10/Noveske or SR25/DPMS components"
Fletch Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, D.R.D. said: I don't even think you can buy a LaRue barrel on its own. I think they only sell the rifle as a whole. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. You can however, buy a barrel that is extremely similar to the barrel LaRue originally used before they started making their own. They were made by Lothar-Walther, and called the "Var-Tac" series of barrels. LW-50 steel, 1:10 twist, Rifle length gas system. I think they are available in 16", 18" & 20" versions and come with a matched nickel boron bolt for around $450. They will surely fit in a Maten upper (From the Mega website: " Designed to accept any AR style .308 barrels and bolts*. This means you can use your AR10/Noveske or SR25/DPMS components" They do sell their OBR barrels, but according to their website the barrels will only work with their OBR rifles, which makes sense as I think their PredatOBR rifle is designed for quick break-down and barrel swap. http://www.larue.com/762-predatobr-barrel-cartridge Edited July 20, 2016 by Fletch
D.R.D. Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Ah, got it. Yes, that definitely looks like a proprietary mounting system. So, no bdavison78613 it doesn't look like an OBR barrel will work in a Maten receiver. Go for a Lothar-Walther or Criterion.
Fletch Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) 15 hours ago, bdavison78613 said: ok so I am new and apologize if this has been discussed. I am starting a build and wanting to know if I can use a LaRue barrel with a Mega Maten upper/lower set? Other barrels I have thought about are Noveske but not sure I want a 16 inch barrel or possible rainier 308 ultramatch. Are you against getting a Mega 16" barrel? I have one and it is easily capable of 3/4" groups with Federal GMM 168 grain factory ammo...probably even better if you took me out of the equation. I did shoot a sub 1/2" group with it but I'm thinking that was a bit of luck on my part. Also, have you considered JP Rifles? They have a 16" (mid-length gas) that comes with one of their High Pressure Enhanced Bolts which is matched/headspaced to the barrel. I almost bought one but the price was a bit steep for me. I think it's like $600 (+$50 if you want it coated black). Edited July 20, 2016 by Fletch
bdavison78613 Posted July 21, 2016 Author Report Posted July 21, 2016 no not against a Mega barrel just looking for the most accurate I can get for around 500-600. I cannot seem to find a range report site for 308ARs. I have plans to build another with an aero precision upper/lower with a ballistic advantage barrel just to try them out, they guarantee sub moa and for a really really good price but there again no actual range report on them. any and all advice would be appreciated
survivalshop Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 All three of my Criterion Barrels shoot sub MOA , 16",18" & the 20" HB will shoot better then that .
D.R.D. Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 If you've got $600 to spend: http://www.fulton-armory.com/barrelfatitan20nmm110ss1x12875gasblockthreaded-2.aspx
Fletch Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, bdavison78613 said: no not against a Mega barrel just looking for the most accurate I can get for around 500-600. I cannot seem to find a range report site for 308ARs. I have plans to build another with an aero precision upper/lower with a ballistic advantage barrel just to try them out, they guarantee sub moa and for a really really good price but there again no actual range report on them. any and all advice would be appreciated Yes, looking for an all-in-one accuracy report for 308AR barrels will likely be impossible...your best bet is what you're doing...asking and hoping for a variety of responses. I think what you're going to find is that there are a handful of companies that offer what you seek...is Lothar-Walther better than Criterion? is Criterion better than JP? Is JP better than (whoever)? Etc. If you're looking for sub-MOA all of those (and some others) are good to go...if you're looking for "most accurate" I think you're going to have to take a chance and pick one...if you're happy with it, keep it, if not sell it and try another. I don't see that question as definitively answerable beforehand by anyone. For me, my choice ended up being between Mega, JP, and Criterion...all of which I felt would be very accurate based on what I read...the price steered me away from JP, and the Criterion was out of stock, so I went with the Mega. But my criteria was probably different from yours...I just wanted 16", mid-gas, black, and MOA or better...and for me the Mega has exceeded my expectations. If I had to guess I would say the Mega is not likely to be as accurate (on average) than some of those other choices and by no means am I trying to push the Mega barrel...just trying to illustrate one way of looking at the choices out there.
shepp Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 7 hours ago, Fletch said: Yes, looking for an all-in-one accuracy report for 308AR barrels will likely be impossible...your best bet is what you're doing...asking and hoping for a variety of responses. I think what you're going to find is that there are a handful of companies that offer what you seek...is Lothar-Walther better than Criterion? is Criterion better than JP? Is JP better than (whoever)? Etc. If you're looking for sub-MOA all of those (and some others) are good to go...if you're looking for "most accurate" I think you're going to have to take a chance and pick one...if you're happy with it, keep it, if not sell it and try another. I don't see that question as definitively answerable beforehand by anyone. For me, my choice ended up being between Mega, JP, and Criterion...all of which I felt would be very accurate based on what I read...the price steered me away from JP, and the Criterion was out of stock, so I went with the Mega. But my criteria was probably different from yours...I just wanted 16", mid-gas, black, and MOA or better...and for me the Mega has exceeded my expectations. If I had to guess I would say the Mega is not likely to be as accurate (on average) than some of those other choices and by no means am I trying to push the Mega barrel...just trying to illustrate one way of looking at the choices out there. EXACTLY!!!!! Perfectly stared
mjg Posted July 22, 2016 Report Posted July 22, 2016 On 7/20/2016 at 11:04 PM, D.R.D. said: If you've got $600 to spend: http://www.fulton-armory.com/barrelfatitan20nmm110ss1x12875gasblockthreaded-2.aspx That's actually the one I just purchased for my 308 build. I've used LaRue for 556, and they make a great barrel for sure; but as already discovered, you cannot use their 308 barrel for a custom build.
survivalshop Posted July 22, 2016 Report Posted July 22, 2016 My 20" HB is a Krieger/Criterion Barrel before Criterion separated from them & purchased from FA. Mine is a 0.936 Gas block dia. It shoots amazing , heavy as hell , buy shoots better then I will ever be able to .
DNP Posted July 22, 2016 Report Posted July 22, 2016 ....well that ain't saying much SS! Just kidding-don't shoot me. You'll plenty happy with that barrel.
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