Spaniky73 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 When I was searching for bulk plinking ammo I came across this http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8699&dir=18|830|848They are made by H&k for the p91. They have a special bolt for it to cycle. It is a 10gr plastic round with 12grs of powder and travels at 3500-4700fps. From what I understand it is accurate out to about 100-300yds and recoils like a .22lr. I was wondering if anyone here had used them and would give me their 2 cents? It is hard to pass up 1000rds for under $200 but turning my semi-auto into a bolt action does not sound like fun after 20-30 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Looks like sims - simunitions. Close range, they can be very deadly. Had a friend in Okinawa lose an eye from one of those, right through a set of Oakley goggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniky73 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 From what I understand they are not Sim rounds they are plastic bullets. They are suppose to be able to penetrate a 2x4. Unlike Sim rounds these are lethal at close range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Unlike Sim rounds these are lethal at close range.Sims can be very lethal at close range... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniky73 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 The old ones were a rubber material (very lethal at close range). All of the current military sim rounds that I have ever used are a subsonic chalk like material that disintegrates on impact. I have been hit on bare skin at 10ft and it did not break skin but it sure left a welt. To be lethal you need to be in the point blank range. These are lethal at over 100yds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Yeah, I'm the sucker ! I bought a case of 1000 in the fall of 2009. It is german miltary practice ammo. It is accurate up to 200 yards ,the tip separates from the body and could kill small animals at close range. It will not cycle in any of my AR guns, two of my freinds were shooting them in their shops and it is quite loud. One bolt gun had problems with the firing pin not having enough pressure to set them off. Plus side super cheap to shoot and almost no recoil. I still have an untouched half case{500}Would be good if you were teaching a teenager to shoot but that would be it , PITA to do single shots.Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Sims can be very lethal at close range... When simunition first came out we used it in my Police Academy. We weren't instructed very well on the minimum engagement distances. During a sims battle one of our trainees was hiding behind a low wall. A second trainee snuck up behind the wall and shot the first trainee in the top of the head. The shot was only inches away, and completely unprotected. The result was NOT lethal, but it did result in a trip to the emergency room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKSHEEP Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 When simunition first came out we used it in my Police Academy. We weren't instructed very well on the minimum engagement distances. During a sims battle one of our trainees was hiding behind a low wall. A second trainee snuck up behind the wall and shot the first trainee in the top of the head. The shot was only inches away, and completely unprotected. The result was NOT lethal, but it did result in a trip to the emergency room. No offence but should have been common sence not to put a firearm inches from someones head and pull the trigger,just saying :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniky73 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yeah, I'm the sucker ! I bought a case of 1000 in the fall of 2009. It is german miltary practice ammo. It is accurate up to 200 yards ,the tip separates from the body and could kill small animals at close range. It will not cycle in any of my AR guns, two of my freinds were shooting them in their shops and it is quite loud. One bolt gun had problems with the firing pin not having enough pressure to set them off. Plus side super cheap to shoot and almost no recoil. I still have an untouched half case{500}Would be good if you were teaching a teenager to shoot but that would be it , PITA to do single shots.MikeSo you would not recommend these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 No offence but should have been common sence not to put a firearm inches from someones head and pull the trigger,just saying :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo:No offense taken. I wasn't either party. You have to expect problems when you tell a bunch of 21-23 year old boys, "it's just like paintball." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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