MikedaddyH Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 http://guns.connect.fi/gow/arcane1.htmlSubsonic info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 http://members.shaw.ca/cronhelm/DevelopSubsonic.htmlmore subsonic info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 http://members.shaw.ca/cronhelm/TheLoad.htmlRed Dot reduced rifle loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Great find brother Mike,even though I don't reload I can kind of understand the principles involved.The historical background was very interesting. <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 http://emptormavon.com/2011/09/7-62-thumper-subsonic-xcr-rifle/7.62 thumper and 300blackout guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 http://cartridgeloaders.com/article/subsonic%20308%20load.htmlsubsonic 308 loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 While you're scouring the internet Mike, look for an article called "The Load".They did something like 9gr of Red Dot in like 20 different calibers.Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 While you're scouring the internet Mike, look for an article called "The Load".They did something like 9gr of Red Dot in like 20 different calibers.Saw it !Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Made some subsonic 9mm rounds with Titegroup and small piston magnum primers. Used 115gr round nose bullets. Will test them on the next range trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted November 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 The subsonic 9mm rounds worked great ! All of the rounds within a 2.5" to 3" circle at 15 yards ,shooting out of a Ruger SR9 with 4.5" barrel. They were considerably quieter ,more of a cul-ack... than a CRACK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Armory Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Thought I would bring this one back ! Tons of subsonic info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Can you load low enough to shoot subsonic in .308 AR and hit a water jug and recover the bullet for examination of the lands and grooves? I've recovered bullets shot into snow during the winter (normal high veloctiy loads) and found them after snow melt on top the ground and except for just the very tip, pretty pristine. My loads shooting into water/dirt is not an effective way to recover a nearly intact bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbasks Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 We have alot of clay in our hiss so most come out prestine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Armory Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Trailboss will also work into plastic jugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Can you load low enough to shoot subsonic in .308 AR and hit a water jug and recover the bullet for examination of the lands and grooves? I'm sure you can - start here: http://members.shaw.ca/cronhelm/DevelopSubsonic.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 /\/\/\/\ THAT'S what I was looking for in the other thread. Way to go Apeman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Great read 98Z5V ! I saved it in several spots on my favorites and will print it an put it in my reloading binder. It give me an idea that if things went to hell, a major nuclear war, object striking earth, where life as wel know it, this info might be really useful. A pound of Red Dot or my Titewad powder for my .45 ACP would go a long way at reloading with cast lead bullets when nothing else would ever be available. I can see it having multiple applications, but survival would be an excellent reason. Subsonic does not mean not deadly. Many a rabbit and other small game has been gotten with the lowly .22 CB short. Hell, I even killed pigeons one time with my home made blow gun, and that defenitely is sub sonic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 My LGS had freebie "Basic Reloading Manual" put out by Hodgdon. After reading this (above) I looked into the manual and found loads for 168 gr SIE HPBT using Titegroup and Clays, starting at 8 grains each with a vel of 1080 for Titegroup and 1060 for Clays. Above that spec for the 168 gr SIE HPBT was 150 gr Nos BT and it had Trail Boss listed at 14.0 grain to start and a velocity of 1417 fps 27,100 PSI pressures. I also found that on line at www.hodgdon.com in their load data section of their web. I would think lead cast and resized bullets would be very useful for low velocity loads and one should always be able to find some sorts of lead from various sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 If you decide to run .308 Win subsonics, I'd shoot them from the shortest barrel you have, to start out. You try to run them out of a 24" hunting rifle, and they might get stuck in the barrel. That low velocity might have enough drag from the rifling to stop it in a longer barrel. One at a time for testing, check for barrel obstruction each time, and hammer them out if they don't get out under their own power. Round #2 would SUCK, if you didn't check every one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Back in the 80's I used to shoot cast bullets in a 30-06 I had, used them on jackrabbits just for the fun of it. They had gas checks on them and were cast straight up tire weights. I've still got the mold and sizer/lube die around here somewhere. I have absolutely no idea what load I used though, it's been so long ago, but they shot pretty good and leading wasn't a problem. I need to check my old Lyman manual and see if I have the load in there. I should dig that stuff up and cast some bullets to try in the 300 BLK.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 I should dig that stuff up and cast some bullets to try in the 300 BLK.! Not in a gas-gun, brother. You'll clog that gasport in NO time... I'm just sayin'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Molybdenum disulfide (moly) coated lead with gas checks would be worth checking into. NOT the "moly-grease lube" that Lyman offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Well, doesn't make any difference anyway, the mold is no longer in my possession. I looked all over for it and I no longer have it I guess. I did have one of the bullets in a parts drawer and it was a 155 gr. bullet. I checked my old Lyman manual and I was loading with Unique powder but not sure of the charge. I'm going to guess it was around 13 to 14 grs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Armory Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Shot some 9mm 115gr JHP with 6.4gr of HS=6. Would not cycle in the AR but was quiet out of the Kahr handgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Not in a gas-gun, brother. You'll clog that gasport in NO time... I'm just sayin'... Tom, I did a little research over at 300blktalk.com. A lot of those guys are powder coating their cast bullets before loading them (no other lube) but several have used cast and lubed lead bullets with and without gas checks and none have had any problem with fowling the gas port. My shooting buddy (the one who got me & Josh spun up on building 300 blk's) has also shot quite a bit of cast bullet loads in his with no problems. The general consensus seems to be that any lead that might find it's way into the gas port is blown on through the gas system by the gas itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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