EasyEJL Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 What brass can these be used on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 You found berdan primers? If you look down in your case, there will be two holes that are symetrically off center. Any case that is brass should accept the berdan. Check the other threads on here, there is a video posted of a dude that came up with a way to remove the berdan primers without needing the $70 RCBS tool. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Armory Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Easy, If you found some ... GET some for me ! like 500-1000. I have a method to deprime them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasprite Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 I've sometimes wounder if you can take an anvil from a spent boxer primer then put it in the berdan primer then seat it in a boxer case and use like normal. So is me nuts or plausible. :cookoo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 I've sometimes wounder if you can take an anvil from a spent boxer primer then put it in the berdan primer then seat it in a boxer case and use like normal. So is me nuts or plausible. :cookoo: The vid Jon is talking about, that's posted, is exactly that. The guy used a die, water-filled cases, and hydrostatically BLOWS the berdan primers right out. Reloads with normal boxer primers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 The vid Jon is talking about, that's posted, is exactly that. The guy used a die, water-filled cases, and hydrostatically BLOWS the berdan primers right out. Reloads with normal boxer primers. Yup. And I don't recall it in that video but I've had old timers tell me the size is just a tiny bit off. The berdan may stay put or it may want to wiggle out. Some stated they just put clear fingernail polish on it and the primer stays until you reload the brass again. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Ok, I guess i'll order some as they are the only damn primers I can actually find :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasprite Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 The vid Jon is talking about, that's posted, is exactly that. The guy used a die, water-filled cases, and hydrostatically BLOWS the berdan primers right out. Reloads with normal boxer primers. I think your close to my thinking but not quite their. I'm talking about using boxer cases so you don't have to mess with the berdan case at all. Lets say after you deprime and size your Winchester .308 case you take the used anvil out of the spent Winchester primer put it in the berdan primer and seat it in your Winchester case. Think this would work or are you going to detonate the primer during the seating process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Oh, seasprite...so berdan primer in a regular boxer case with an anvil from a used boxer primer. Hhmmm... Have you seen this? Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Oh, seasprite...so berdan primer in a regular boxer case with an anvil from a used boxer primer. Hhmmm... Have you seen this? Jon that is cool, but looks like its hideously time consuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 That it does, look time consuming. Put it under the "good to know for when they ban ammo" folder. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 seasprite - that opposite of what I was thinking - using the berdan-primed (spent) brass, decapping it so you can reload it (running boxer primers). Not sure about the other way - unless that stuff above would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 I wonder if the flash hole on boxer-style brass would provide enough of a crushing surface without an anvil at all, in a berdan primer. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripledeuce Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 In the 1950's my dad had a part time job as a gunsmith. In the 60's my younger brother and I found a couple of Italian Carcanos that he had stuck away. We had a limited amount of factory ammo, and imagine our suprise when we went to reload them and found berdan primers!!! Well, we took an ice pick, and pried the old primers out, and with a electric hand drill, drilled out the post from the cases, forming a flash hole, while getting rid of the berdan post. Then we used a Lyman primer pocket reamer to remove the crimp, and open the primer pocket to "standard" dia and depth as the berdan primers were slightly smaller than the regular primers. Loaded those suckers up I don't know how many times!!!LOL!!!! Of course, we held the cases in our hands while doing all this to them.LOL!! I'd do it a little differently, now! Respectfully Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasprite Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Oh, seasprite...so berdan primer in a regular boxer case with an anvil from a used boxer primer. Hhmmm... Have you seen this? Jon Defiantly filed under if they restrict ammo to us common folk to keep the freedom sticks running. One thing you can count on though that mix is probably corrosive and I would treat it as such by washing the bore with soap and water after use. <thumbsup> seasprite - that opposite of what I was thinking - using the berdan-primed (spent) brass, decapping it so you can reload it (running boxer primers). Not sure about the other way - unless that stuff above would work. Your thinking along my lines now 98 <thumbsup> I would like to get a few berdan primers and try and see if it would work maybe EasyEJL will do a little test for us if he orders some. defiantly would have to have eye protection for the seating process though. I wonder if the flash hole on boxer-style brass would provide enough of a crushing surface without an anvil at all, in a berdan primer. Jon I think your going to need some type of anvil for the priming compound to compress against but I don't even know what the difference is between the two different cups and the amount of fill in the cups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasprite Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 In the 1950's my dad had a part time job as a gunsmith. In the 60's my younger brother and I found a couple of Italian Carcanos that he had stuck away. We had a limited amount of factory ammo, and imagine our suprise when we went to reload them and found berdan primers!!! Well, we took an ice pick, and pried the old primers out, and with a electric hand drill, drilled out the post from the cases, forming a flash hole, while getting rid of the berdan post. Then we used a Lyman primer pocket reamer to remove the crimp, and open the primer pocket to "standard" dia and depth as the berdan primers were slightly smaller than the regular primers. Loaded those suckers up I don't know how many times!!!LOL!!!! Of course, we held the cases in our hands while doing all this to them.LOL!! I'd do it a little differently, now! Respectfully Terry And this could put an end to my thinking right here if there smaller cup size than the boxer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 There are videos on Youtube for how to convert the larger Berdan cups for the smaller Boxer primers... Essentially you enlarge the existing cup and then resize the cup to the smaller primer with a piece of brass tubing. If I can find it I'll post up a link soon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripledeuce Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) And, Berdan primers come in a varaity of sizes!!!! What size were you ordering? Respectfully Terry Edited April 3, 2013 by Tripledeuce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Someone else was ordering, someone else is asking questions... this topic has gone so sideways, we'll never keep up... Smaller Berdans, to the larger boxers - large rifle or small rifle - ream the cases to accept the boxers. Primer pocket reamers are gonna be those two sizes. I don't even know where we're going here, anymore... <dontknow> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 And, Berdan primers come in a varaity of sizes!!!! What size were you ordering? Respectfully Terry they are the 762 NATO size, the other size listed was for 762x39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasprite Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Someone else was ordering, someone else is asking questions... this topic has gone so sideways, we'll never keep up... Smaller Berdans, to the larger boxers - large rifle or small rifle - ream the cases to accept the boxers. Primer pocket reamers are gonna be those two sizes. I don't even know where we're going here, anymore... <dontknow> oops see what happens when I start thinking everything gets screwed up :stfu2: :threadjack: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 No brother, it's two topics here, between you and EasyE... It's my fault, because I can't keep up between both of them... :cookoo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 And it was reasonably related, how often does anyone talk about berdan primers at all? but there is a bunch of cheap 762 nato once fired brass out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasprite Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Powder Valley was just showing TUL 7.62 NATO LARGE RIFLE (KVB762) PRIMERS (1000) Yes $25.50 IN STOCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 All this talk about the berdan, what about Tula? I'm sitting on some Tula LPP boxers. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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