shibiwan Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I had been picking up FGMM 175gr HPBT's from Sportsman's Warehouse regularly and they've suddenly dried up. Any one else have any success finding 175gr HPBT at a reasonable** price right now? (** I'm considering reasonable being $1.30-$1.40/round since each box costs $26.99) Thoughts on the XM117LR? Other alternatives, although I'm partial to Federal.....? Thanks -S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbasks Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammunition/308-762x51 Lots there. And some H178 match here http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000038077 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbasks Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) Oh and http://www.freedommunitions.com/308-Win-178-gr-A-Max-p/fm308b178r-b0240.htm Edited October 18, 2013 by bubbasks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofball310 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 $1.02/rd http://georgia-arms.com/308winchester175grboattailhollowpointtip50pk.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofball310 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 http://www.selwayarmory.com/hsm762x51mm175grhpbt-m118lr.aspx $1.05/rd http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product1383.html $1.10/rd Try out this site whenever you need ammo: www.gunbot.net It was a lifesaver for me during the panic period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaRKle! Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Also check Sniper Central. I ordered some HSM "M118LR Equivalent" from them last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Thanks guys... think I'll order some HSM ones from Selway and see how they stack up against the Federals. BTW, am I the only one that finds Hornady ammo to be inconsistent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Not a clue. But in a related note, I found my stash of M118!! Yeah baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCbassman Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I did a quick scan (really quick scan) through this and didn't see anything; however, it updates quite regularly and would be a good place to check often: http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/rifle/308/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissyJim Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 man these threads kill me. One thing that sucks about living in Alaska is that shipping KILLS any ammo deal online - after shipping I may as well buy at the local prices. I hope to God that when Cabelas finally opens their first store up here this spring that they honor the free shipping to store offer that now includes ammo (according to their website) But I doubt it'll be much more than their Herters stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Here is another search like gunbot http://ammoseek.com Wash Edited October 26, 2013 by washguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissyJim Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 found a few cases of 1k rounds of Federal today (local)... for only $899! ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted October 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Yeah, the Federal XM80C's are available in 1000rd boxes at $854.99 at Sportsman's warehouse. Too bad they aren't the XM118LR. In my shooting tests, I found the XM80C's a little underpowered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissyJim Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 so it's all Sportsmans, not just up here? wow. I'm a little low on 308, but that's ridiculous. I knew I should have bought more when it was $699. Live and learn... (and buy it no matter how pissed off the wifely unit© gets) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) so it's all Sportsmans, not just up here? wow. I'm a little low on 308, but that's ridiculous. I knew I should have bought more when it was $699. Live and learn... (and buy it no matter how pissed off the wifely unit© gets) Yeah, pretty much all the big sporting goods stores are dry. Bass Pro just got in Winchester 168gr HPBT Match rounds but at $39.99/20 box that's insane since Federal GMM 175's are under $30/box when/if you can find them at the stores. In hindsight, I should have picked up more FGMM 175's at sportsman's when they were available. Edited October 27, 2013 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissyJim Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 sad thing is, I can't find anything locally, other than steel cased crap or the Federal - maybe a box here and there of other stuff, but also at inflated prices. I may break down and buy some, but I really want to think things will return to normal. And then I go and read about this: http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/10/end-of-an-era-last-us-lead-smelter-to-close-in-december.aspx No idea how this will affect things, but in my opinion.... not very well. Almost enough to make me rethink the case of Federal at Sportsmans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 "in 2008 the federal Environmental Protection Agency issued new National Ambient Air Quality Standards for lead that were 10 times tighter than the previous standard. Given the new lead air quality standard, Doe Run made the decision to close the Herculaneum smelter." "after the Herculaneum smelter closes its doors in December, entirely domestic [u.S.] manufacture of conventional ammunition, from raw ore to finished cartridge, will be impossible." http://bit.ly/1bn2V9L Anybody want to bet that the real point of the EPA lead standards was to take a shot at US ammunition production? Obama said he would shut down coal-fired electricity in the US, using EPA standards, and he's thrown thousands of coal miners out of work. Welcome to the Imperial Government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) sad thing is, I can't find anything locally, other than steel cased crap or the Federal - maybe a box here and there of other stuff, but also at inflated prices. I may break down and buy some, but I really want to think things will return to normal. And then I go and read about this: http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/10/end-of-an-era-last-us-lead-smelter-to-close-in-december.aspx No idea how this will affect things, but in my opinion.... not very well. Almost enough to make me rethink the case of Federal at Sportsmans. Don't get me wrong. The XM80C is a great and reliable round. My personal preference and rifle setup for long range targets is the 175gr SMK - that's why I'm looking for other options beside the FGMM's. There may be some relation between the lead smelter shutting down and the shortage of ammo, but the XM80C is a steel core round like the XM855 (5.56/.223 rounds). Maybe that's why we're seeing them all over the place. Edited October 27, 2013 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissyJim Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) either way, makes me want to buy some more of whatever I can get. Panic? not really, but foreshadowing foresight is more like it. now we'll be more dependant on imported ammo, and whats to stop Obama from using an EO to ban that? It's know he has mentioned it... frankly, I'm surprised he hasn't already. I don't think the ammo shortage is due to this... but it WILL be the cause when it gets worse in the near future. Frankly, even if the ammo is not up to par, it's better than throwing rocks. Edited October 27, 2013 by SwissyJim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) No more lead so we get steel (i.e. magnetic). Has anyone done target penetration and/or barrel wear tests with the XM80C? Wondering if it penetrates like it's 5.56 brethren or kill our barrels faster..... Edited October 28, 2013 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbasks Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 http://www.sgammo.com/product/federal/500-rd-case-762x51-federal-gold-medal-match-175gr-bthp-sierra-matchking-ammo Fgmm and tons in stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaRKle! Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 http://www.sgammo.com/product/federal/500-rd-case-762x51-federal-gold-medal-match-175gr-bthp-sierra-matchking-ammoFgmm and tons in stock.Blast you, making me spend money! lolAt least now I'll be able to compare HSM M118LR to this load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 http://www.sgammo.com/product/federal/500-rd-case-762x51-federal-gold-medal-match-175gr-bthp-sierra-matchking-ammo Fgmm and tons in stock. Wow! That's an awesome deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 http://www.surplusammo.com/308-win-175-grain-matchking-bthp-remington-200-rounds/ heres another Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissyJim Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 I gotta stop reading this thread... :-[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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