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Also, any chance you'll offer an 80% version?

Very cool! When CTD has the HK G3 mags for 97¢, I picked up more of them than I had any reason to buy. This is good! With a radius on the tower buffer, it looks like a DPMS 308 AR pattern rather than Armalite AR-10. (I prefer DPMS pattern anyway.) Curious about a clarification.

AR platform chambered in 7.62x54r to shoot the cheap mil-surp stuff. That's like shooting 1/2 price 30-06.

I've been a member of WG for a couple years. Great people and incredible info if you're into building. The .308 AR bolt I just picked up was from Shadow Ops. The quality was on par with the best I've seen. I expect nothing less on these. And they have a great reputation. They've delivered on every GB I've ever seen them do. Latest news is that these are less than 25 days out for delivery. EasyEJL, That billet 308 Lower is a piece of art!

Does anyone have prints for a 16" 308 AR barrel profile they could share?

Great video. Couldn't stop watching.

Saw this finally: http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=23782428&nid=148&title=sheriffs-feds-cant-take-away-utahns-2nd-amendment-rights&s_cid=featured-4 The Utah Sheriffs' Association: "No federal official will be permitted to descend upon our constituents and take from them what the Bill of Rights — in particular Amendment II — has given them" YEAH!

Nov. 16, 2012: GAO dismisses Colt’s protest. Insert ---> Nov. 15, 2012, Remington acquires LAR Manufacturing. I don't actually know when it was announced publicly. But I have a feeling that Remington made it clear to the right Government decision makers that they were acquiring LAR before it was announced publicly. http://aftermathgunclub.com/?p=1470 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/11/28/lar-manufacturing-acquired-by-remington/

WOAH! I know a bunch of guys that work there... what's this going to mean?

This is one of my other AR's on a follow up of desert/sand color schemes. Rock River Up/Down, Yankee BCG, Troy handguard, DPMS 2-stage trigger. It also has a picatinny mounted cigarette holder/bottle opener ;D

That's sweet. I'm fond of sand/desert finishes. And that's practical tactical.

Yes! The KR-7. Too bad they aren't being made. I wonder if it was the supply or the demand that did it in.

Thanks all. Sanding and polishing -I don't like. And it's completely impractical for anything other than being different. Altho my buddy pointed out that if you send your wife out on patrol, she can check her makeup while on maneuvers. Or might be good for blinding zombies in bright sunlight. It's probably best classified as Anti-Tactical. Yeah, my wife likes to cook and I like to build guns. If she gets what she wants, I sometimes get to build something I want. Once in a while. <lmao> I have a Tactical Machining TM-10 lower (DPMS pattern) and a custom billet side charge upper. The lower is done and polished. I'm dreading the sanding on the upper. But the idea is/was a polished pair, one "little" and one "big". I need a barrel and a 308 BCG to get that build back on track.

Yeah, the pistol grip, gas block, hand guard, barrel nut are all machined from some scrap billet. My pops is/was a machinist by trade. But if I'm shooting in temps below 50 degress, that pistol grip just sucks the heat out of your hand. It's a fair weather bench riding shooter. I haven't found a good clear coat that doesn't dull the shine a bit. So I've been hesitant to coat it. The aluminum doesn't tarnish too fast if you keep some Mothers Aluminum polish on it. Even after hands have been all over it when shooting and I let it sit for a while, it just wipes clean with the polish. I love that ASA non-recip side-charge. Just not the price. There was another AR upper out there that charged in the handguard like a HK G3 or Cetme. Non-recip, it was _very_ cool. And expensive. If money was no object, I'd track down one of those for fun. I'll see if I can dig up a picture of it.

I just posted this in the side-charge thread, so should post here too! It's my more recent build. 6.5 Grendel/264 LBC, Tactical Machining 80% lower, LAR Grizzly OPS4 side charge upper. AA bolt, Polygonal barrel (from that one place that apparently shall remain un-named), Magpul PRS stock, custom billet grip, gas block, barrel nut, hand guard and trigger guard. DPMS 2-stage trigger.

I only have experience with the LAR uppers. They're right down the road from me and I've had the privilege of taking a tour of their operations several times. Really good group. That said, I've bought 3 OPS4 uppers from them. And they are all great. I *will* convert my only remaining rear-charge upper to an OPS4 very soon. The OPS4 uppers have become incredibly popular with LEO and SWAT groups across the country. Especially in tight quarters, being able to keep your finger on the trigger and your eye on target while you manipulate the bolt... there's nothing like it. This is my most recent build. It's a right-side charge since it's primarily a bench gun anyway (6.5 Grendel/264 LBC). Sad to hear they are on such back-order. Sounds like they have become even more popular as of lately.

Cool write up and some good and interesting points. Yeah, my definition of mil-spec is; the most extreme tolerances the military will allow a contractor to meet to ensure that the component will still function. Mil-Spec is by no means an endorsement for accuracy or well-fitting pieces. And you're right about "Mil-Spec" not being possible in the part specifications itself in this case. But you could say "meets or exceeds Mil-Spec tolerances". That could be a true statement since the tolerances indicate the +/- variance dimensions. Yes, misleading, but factually accurate and a way to have the words "Mil-Spec" associated with civilian (non-military) parts.

I don't want stir up this debate, considering the focus of this forum especially... but... while 1000 yards with a .308 is certainly possible, you're going to be pushing it hard. Hot loads, 175 grain projectiles. Not cheap (compared to standard 308 loads) and you'll be pushing your components hard. Range fatigue will be a consideration. It's cool and all and I'll certainly push my .308's to 1000 yards - bolt and .308 AR platform. For fun. But honestly, if you want a good 1000+ yard performer, considering competition and such --in a .308 AR platform, the 6.5 Creedmoor could be a LOT of fun. One more consideration specifically for me, which might be a consideration for others interested in long-range AR shooting; I also have a 6.5 Grendel (AR-15 platform and one of the best ways to get 1000+ yards out of an AR-15 platform). The 6.5mm projectiles would be the same for the Creedmoor and Grendel. ~120-140 grain. Just giving you some other options to consider and trying to muddy the waters further.

Titan side charge upper ;D http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=280056 http://www.fulton-armory.com/upperreceivertitanslick-sideslottedforsidecockingmodification.aspx

Ah... yeah. That's right... the mag-catch is only different on the AR-10 and the same for DPMS. Only 3-parts since the TM-10 includes that set screw for the bolt catch pivot. Good luck on your build!

MAG CATCH! That was it. So you can buy a standard AR-15 LPK for about $60 and then spend $20-25 on the 4 308 AR specific pieces, or you can track down a DPMS 308 AR specific Lower Parts kit for $85-$90 or so.

Sorry, don't know how savvy you are about the TM-10 lower... it's based on a DPMS design. Rock River has a nice 308 AR lower parts kit. BUT... there are only 3 (maybe 4? I forget) parts that are different from an AR-15 and a DPMS 308 AR LPK. )So you can pick up any AR-15 LPK you desire. Then hit Brownells and buy the pieces you need, separately. Bolt catch release, pivot pin and take down pin. TM sends you a pin specific to their design for the bolt catch release pivot. I think that's done to avoid copyright stuff or something. So, after all that rambling, I don't even know for sure if that's the question you were looking to have answered.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!

Berdan or boxer primed? Make sure it's not corrosive and you should be fine. But, if that's a rifle you're going to compete with, meh... get a 'blasting rifle' to shoot the cheap stuff. Since my HK, PTR and Cetme destroy the brass with the flutes and they're just fun industrial blasting rifles, I shoot the Paki stuff with no problems. Confirmed non-corrosive. And berdan primed.

<thumbsup> Thanks.