Magwa

Thank you to all those who have fought for this country and a special shout out to all the NA's who have given so much for so long... thank you one and all...

Got to love them Hawks...... wife and I used to go to a game now and then I watched them when Zorn to largent was the bomb! they have finnaly arrived...

Yeah I like having options too and if they are sewn on that option is gone..... I have narrowed it down for me to tac tailor or BDS just have not settles on the final configuration..... still have to figure out where to put a pistol as a drop leg design will not work in this country you would be dragging your pistol through the brush and water constantly....

Also important prefered pistol location?

This is a great thread and you guys are great for sharing your information, and you have the idea of what I am looking for. I use a Vickers two point sling it is the best way I have found to carry a 10 lb rifle and not be fatigued. so with that in mind my rifle kinda hangs from my right shoulder to my left hip accross my body ,so the middle of the chest rig would need to be kinda sparse in that area or have a flap of some kind that would keep the rifle from rubbing on any plastic buckles etc I have found it to be noisy in that way but I 100% agree with 98 that a mag carrier can also be a radio carrier or a capri sun carrier etc. I will look at every link you guys have posted and see what i can find I know hunting wise is not much different than SHTF wise so I think it is a good idea to find a rig that will and can be used for both because one I do all the time and the other I hope I never have to do... I went to that other thread and the picture of 98's FDE chest rig and belt is a perfect combination for both situation all I would need on 98's is a chest pouch for binos and a couple of small side pouches for radio knife ,rope etc also on that page was Rsquared's rig and it looks also great in that it has the 5,56 mag pouches on the left side where I like them and has the chest pouch for binos or radio or whatever and the option for body armour is on both of them.......are both those setups still being made?

I was sitting here thinking a dangerous habit i admit when it struck me , we need better hunting packs that can do double duty as a SHTF pack or whatever. So lets say SHTF ok well for sure if you are on the move on your feet you will have a back pack with all your goodies inside, so where do you carry all your mags, radio's, pistol, etcetc that is my question. Now I am thinking a chest rig with a front pouch for radio and such then some mag poushes on the sides in hunting season could double and carry a GPS,camera, knife, whatever will fit in the mag pouches. So someone out there needs to be marketing a well made (I hate cheap stuff) pack that is more than a one trick pony... your thoughts please.....

Well at least this week should be a cramp free night.......

I am far from a expert but I think a gas block is a gasblock but it has to fit the dimensions of the barrel where it attaches...

Deer out here are what they eat, there is no sage brush in this part of the state so the deer and elk all eat the same food. Most people complain of the taste of Mule deer is like sage brush well there in none here and they taste like elk and they are bigger so you get more meat for the bang..... they live in different country than the white tails do but they do overlap in places I will see both species while hunting.... A big mature MD lives in very tough steep terrain he is hard to hunt because of where he lives, his eyesight is second to none and his best defense id distance. A WT buck can live in your back yard and you never see him so they both are hard to hunt but for different reasons Elk can be hard to hunt or very easy depending on where you find them the big bulls are pretty savy about not being caught out in the open but all in all they are not hard to hunt just hard to find as they only live on about 10% of the country you are hunting where as deer can be all over the country.... best to eat in my book ELK, Moose, MD, WT, the reason I do not hunt WT deer is they taste so strong in the rut I have shot deer that the dogs would not eat.... never had that happen with MD.....

Welcome from Idaho 2336 pull up a stump and sit by the fire you will probably be here for awhile.... :)

I like that it has that organic look that and that is a one of a kind.... very nice..

Blue109 is good to go had a great smooth transaction with him and everything was just as described and super fast shipping thanks Blue109

he was a amazing man did 30 years in the Navy retired out at 48 years old ,became a LEO and worked at that till age 55 then hired on with the FAA as a crash investigator and finished out he career there then played golf every day till he passed in 1995, fought in world war 2 and Korean war and was sunk three times.....his last ship the CVS Wasp was my first ship right before they moth balled her.....

Where is the ring ring bell?

Will do 98 we shop at costco every month thanks for the tip....

I am having that tomorrow night ..... sounds awesome.... Hope I can find all the stuff to make it around here might be iffy on the adobo sauce....

I want that recipe.. sounds great...

Well there are always more ways to skin a cat than one... so whatever cooking method works for you is awesome... We like to use cast iron and we like to cook them quick the key is heat you have to have it up high..... when the skillet is hot put in the deer or elk steaks and sear them hard and fast on one side then turn in about 2 or 3 min to other side and sear that side do not turn anymore you can puncture the meat to see how done it is you want medium to medium rare then take off of skillet let set for about 3 min and eat...... they will be juicy, tender, and have major flavor..... we use only peanut oil to fry in as it is the only oil that will take high heat without breaking down....

Sausage Make it with pork shoulder that has a lot of fat then don't add any fat to it just use like 25 % pork shoulder to 75% ground venison..... I always get a kick out of people who say they do not like venison. Most if not all of them probably had it cooked wrong or the animal was not butchered properly and hung for 4 to 9 days... Venison you have to cook it only to medium at most it is lean meat and when over done is tough.. remember has to be pink in the middle a little redder is better. We vacuum seal all our fish and meat we make all our own hamburger and breakfast sausage, everything is boned out then cut... lol my kids grew up teething on bear jerky people asked all the time what are they chewing on and it was always a chunk of bear jerky... I remember the first time my kids had beef the oldest was probably 5 or 6 we had just finished building our house and we decided to celebrate so we bought two big T bones and I cooked them over a alder fire we cut them up and put some on each girls plate the oldest took a bite and got the weirdest look on her face and spit it out and said ewwwwww what is this....... she had never had fat in her mouth before and it freaked her out lol......

Well I am all for it guys we can all learn each other up on woods skills, hunting tips, whatever...

Living in the west I have seen it all in the 80's before wolves we had so many elk our season was 10 days bulls only then 3 weeks of either sex elk . During that time and since I have seen people use every caliber except a AR 15 5.56 on elk and I have seen all of them wound, cripple, it is not the caliber so much as it is bullet construction and most important bullet placement. I have killed over 35 elk and I have lost only 3 in almost 40 years of hunting them in two of the cases it was bullet construction and the other just plain a bad shot... most all of my elk have been killed with a 270 with 130 grain bullets. I have killed them at 20 yards and 600 with the same bullet and gun and most never moved over 20 yards after being shot. Train train train. practice under the same conditions you will hunt ,know your rifle no matter what caliber it is and learn the anatomy of your game these things will breed success. If you own and hunt with a gun you can not handle you are bound to fail , if the recoil bothers you you will not practice.. so outfit yourself accordingly. and Atakachafa very nice buck..

Well I am glad to see so many of us on the same page, maybe we can get the moderator to start us a skills section that we can all add things too like fire making, tracking skills, etcetc ... I have a ton of stuff i can help with I have been a Flintknapper for over 20 years and yes ,I have shot some big racks but they were just the ones that I saw first I am a meat hunter too.....

I hunt with a LR308 and I have killed elk and deer most people I run into have that OMG face when they see my rifle, and it leads to some heated arguments BUT i use the truth on them I say well lets see now your gun is based on a mauser or a infield and you just have to understand what is the next military rifle that will be intergrated into the hunting world? yep I say AR15 it has been in the military for over 50 years and the one I am carrying although not a original is based on the gun that was made before the M16... after that they go well that is true and they say it just looks wierd in the woods. I then tell them it does not rust, is easy to carry, easy to load and unload, and there are more accesories than you could ever use so you can make it just how you want it, I also tell them no wood to swell up in the rain and snow, by then they are like yeah wow I never thought of all that maybe I will have to get one..... :)

Tried watching a hunting show on TV and just about got sick, first they have 40,000 bucks worth of gear and then they bait the deer or turkey or whatever or it is a canned hunt on a game farm. It seems to me it is all about money and the BIGGEST RACK! that in it's self is disgusting what has been a tradition in this country of hunting for food has now turned into exploitation of wildlife and in this country when something is deemed worth alot of money it is surley doomed! Have we as a society become that which we hate? everything is about money we are obsessed..... now what does this have to do with 308 well it seems AR15's and other modular type weapons are heading or already there to the same place and we are falling for it. Do we really need the latest best freefloat rail? do we really need 10 rifles or the latest scope ,or whatever the newest gizmo is?I say NO I say we are exactly what PT Barnum said we were suckers we fall for anything if it is packaged right, what is the saying"Stand for som ething or you will fall for anything" well i have been in the same boat as the rest of the world and now i think I will return to a more minimalistic approach. don't get me wrong I like stuff that works but after I have tested and tested and it works I am going to leave my stuff alone and put my money somewhere else instead of just spending it on the next best gizmo..... I am going to buy ammo...... :) The survivalist era is here and people are buying into it lock stock and barrel what used to be common sense is now being sold to us as a must have..... really? do you buy bottled water? I don't I refuse to pay for someone elses tap water! Ok I will quit but in ending my rant... let me say teach your children the right way to hunt, fish, camp(you know with a tent not in a camp ground that you pay for) try to have them spend less time on the internet and more time learning why this is such a great country and all it has to offer us out doors..... Peace