Albroswift

No problem, have a temp gas tube already, and plenty of other projects... Worked on the porting on one of the 223 sig barrels today. Think maybe I'll add a popple hole, maybe some polish and bluing.

Range day with the first 223 build. Cycled flawlessly. Good groups at 100 yards. Have everything in hand or ordered for the 12.5" 308 and a second 223. Viper PST optics.

Looked all over the shop, then realized it wasn't me. Dang.

On the porch when I got home pretty thing. WC Armory good price quick processing! See if I can get a picture up.

139 for the NiB 308 Toolcraft at wcarmory. Just ordered one.

308 12.5 in barrel does not have the same hard coating of the 223 barrels. Port was .062 opened it up to .078 soft as butter. same bit, hadn't even taken it out of the press. There is some weird $hit going on with these barrels. Not complaining, just observing! Installing the 308 barrel, bent the pins on my barrel wrench, went from 10 ftlbs to 80 in about 1/2 a hole, no joy on gas tube alignment. ordered a new wrench and some spacer shim washers.

5/64, not 5/32!

OK, the 16in 223 barrel needs a 5/32" gas port, mine started with a .053+/-, no feed did not strip the round from the mag at all. Drilled a 1/16" .062, fed and ejected the rounds but no LRBHO. Drilled a 5/32" .078 LRBHO has been achieved. Used Dewalt cobalt bits. the first few thou is pretty discouraging, hard as hell, went real slow, that's where the bit may grab. Easy drilling rest of the way home. If you could dremel out the top few thousandths I think even HSS drills would cut. no mushrooms in the bore with the cobalt bits. very clean. 2.9+/- oz buffer, Millspec? black carbine spring

I only have 3 barrels stacked up right now, so I guess I'm the lucky winner!

I just PM'd him but go ahead, it's yours.

Most of my money I spend on guns, cars, and women, the rest I just waste, someone once said...

But no cycling issues with the rifle length gas system and 27.5 grains, correct? So you hit upon a load that has enough pressure to operate the longer gas system but not enough to maintain acceleration much past it. Out of curiosity, total waste of time, but it would be interesting to ladder up 27.6, 27.7, 27.8...keep going up 0.1 gr at a time until the 18" velocity passed the 16" with the original 27.5 gr. Then go the other way with the 16" until it was slower then the 27.5 in the 18". Could tell a lot about that powder characteristic. Or not.

I'm surprised you didn't get anyone to argue with that statement! Hitting maximum speed at 16" and loosing speed for 2" is unusual for sure. I would expect a huge SD if that was happening. Curious if other factors were involved. For example, admittedly not apples to apples, but I can use some of the fastest burning pistol powders out there and bullets are still faster out of carbine length barrels over pistol length barrels. Yes, I'll admit I don't load or shoot that 6.5 caliber, still interesting...

Been keeping a list of purchased items starting this year or so and prices. I know I've missed a few things, and didn't count multiple purchases of the same item. Crazy, Huh? 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Thanks for the tip, see what you are saying. Taking really small steps, .025 ea pass.

Got one for me?

.062 not quite enough, ran a few rounds in the basement, feeds and ejects now but still no LRBHO, going to .078

port looks a little rough, I'll run an O/S through it last.

ran a .062 through the .052 on the test barrel, clean punch through. have a .078 showing up any time, try that next, in the .062 hole. going to face the hole with a very small mill, surface of the barrel hard. Got the broken mill out of the test barrel, the hole cleaned up nicely, back to the mill soon

Yes, saw that, thanks. Have a couple of new cobalt bits in that size range ordered. (I'm pretty sure I would just break off my 1/16 reamer if I tried that) Practice on the barrel with the broken mill bit first I guess. I'm thinking driving a slug into the barrel before drilling, but maybe go slow and easy no need. Worried about that tiny bit grabbing when it breaks through the bore. Maybe we are getting to the reason Sig dumped these barrels! Thanks.

Ditto, couple small parts, stripped 308 upper, no problema also had good CS from DD lately, tiny screw lost sent another one no questions, N/C, maybe they are upping their game. Maybe not, maybe I just got lucky

PS tried a really tight fitting gas block, same short stroke issue. these photos with the PA block. port go .052 no go. 055

Range report 16in non threaded 5.56 Shot nice groups Romeo5/ VMX 3T great combination but under gas symptoms even using lightest buffer lightest spring bcg would set the disconnect/hammer and ejected 100% nicely but not enough travel to reliably lock back or strip next round. I'll strip it down and take a look maybe the gas block/ gas tube not sealing. On another note, started cutting a comp in one of the barrels, first slot came out nice stuck and broke bit in second slot. Learning curve. New bit ordered. Need a CNC!

post, then edit, picture upload works when editing. that's how I've been posting photos for 2 or 3 days now

guess I'm going to be right behind you. Did you end up with 11-1/8"?