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WASHINGTON — Attorney General Eric Holder lashed back Friday at Republican congressional leaders who suggested he misled a House committee when he testified earlier this year that he was not aware of details about a flawed federal gun investigation that allowed hundreds of weapons to flow to violent Mexican drug cartel enforcers. In his first public statements since House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, called for a special counsel investigation of the matter earlier this week, Holder said his May testimony was "truthful and accurate." He also rejected comments that cast government officials as "accessories to murder." Holder's remarks were contained in a letter to leaders of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, which is investigating the gun investigation, and leaders of the judiciary committees in both the House and Senate. "I have not spoken at length on this subject out of deference to the review being conducted at my request," Holder said, referring to a Justice Department inspector general's review of the gun-trafficking investigation. "In the past few days, the public discourse concerning these issues has become so base and so harmful to interests that I hope we all share that I must now address these issues notwithstanding the inspector general's review." Holder said he took "decisive action" earlier this year when he learned about the gun investigation known as Operation Fast and Furious, by referring it to the inspector general, and later overhauling the leadership at the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives, which oversaw the investigation, and the U.S. Attorney's Office in Phoenix, which helped manage the inquiry. "It has become clear that the flawed tactics employed in Fast and Furious were not limited to that operation and were actually employed in an investigation conducted during the prior administration," Holder said, referring to a separate initiative known as Operation Wide Receiver managed by federal authorities during the Bush administration. "Regardless, those tactics should never again be adopted in any investigation," he said. Holder rejected claims by GOP congressional leaders who said internal Justice department e-mails addressed to the attorney general indicate that Holder knew about the program well before the time he told the committee in May. He said then that he first became aware of the operation earlier this year, after its details were publicly reported in media accounts. He said the internal internal Justice memos were part of a raft of reports that are routinely directed to lower-level officials. And he said none of the memos offered details about the flawed gun-trafficking inquiry. "Prior to early 2011, I certainly never knew about the tactics employed in the operation and it is my understanding that the former United States attorney for the District of Arizona and the former acting director and deputy director of ATF have told Congress that they, themselves, were unaware of the tactics employed," Holder said. "I understand that they have also told Congress that they never briefed me or other department leadership on the misguided tactics that were used in Fast and Furious. " Smith could not be immediately reached for comment Friday. But in a Friday statement, Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Senate Judiciary Committee's ranking Republican, said Holder's May testimony remains "concerning to many of us.'' He said that in a Jan. 31 meeting with the attorney general he "personally handed'' Holder two letters about the Fast and Furious program.

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welcome!

you have beautiful children <thumbsup>

He told me those pictures were promotional material

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/186133-reid-triggers-nuclear-option-to-change-senate-rules-and-prohibit-post-cloture-filibusters

Simple but sexy (The levers not you guys)

A ban on semi-automatic rifles and large-capacity ammunition magazines in the capital city got a boost on Tuesday from a U.S. appeals court that upheld the prohibition as constitutional, a setback for gun rights activists. The ruling upheld a lower court decision that found the ban and regulations by the city of Washington did not violate the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment that permits individuals to possess firearms. The U.S. Appeals Court for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled 2-1 in favor of the city’s ban, which is one of the toughest in the United States and also includes a prohibition on semi-automatic pistols and shotguns. Source: Jeremy Pelofsky for Reuters.

What do you guys think about these. They are priced right.

entertaining none the less

lots of things to end that statement <lmao>

oh yeah the Midway factor. They did the same to me. Fortunately I was removing the threads. Barrel was sticking out of the package. They also shipped a stripped 308 upper receiver in an envelope with no protection. Screwed up the barrel nut threads.

Jeez is is not typical of SI quality.

The link didnt work for me. GB sire error. Just an opnion but I think Armalite, like Larue and a few others are worth a premium over Bushmaster/DPMS. Obviously others may see it differently.

Your baiting me ;D

I know I know it just seems funny that less cost more

Thats worthy of posting here. Murder and violent crime rates were supposed to soar after the Supreme Court struck down gun control laws in Chicago and Washington, D.C. Politicians predicted disaster. "More handguns in the District of Columbia will only lead to more handgun violence," Washington’s Mayor Adrian Fenty warned the day the court made its decision. Chicago’s Mayor Daley predicted that we would "go back to the Old West, you have a gun and I have a gun and we'll settle it in the streets . . . ." The New York Times even editorialized this month about the Supreme Court's "unwise" decision that there is a right for people "to keep guns in the home." But Armageddon never happened. Newly released data for Chicago shows that, as in Washington, murder and gun crime rates didn't rise after the bans were eliminated -- they plummeted. They have fallen much more than the national crime rate. Not surprisingly, the national media have been completely silent about this news. One can only imagine the coverage if crime rates had risen. In the first six months of this year, there were 14% fewer murders in Chicago compared to the first six months of last year – back when owning handguns was illegal. It was the largest drop in Chicago’s murder rate since the handgun ban went into effect in 1982. Meanwhile, the other four most populous cities saw a total drop at the same time of only 6 percent. Similarly, in the year after the 2008 "Heller" decision, the murder rate fell two-and-a-half times faster in Washington than in the rest of the country. It also fell more than three as fast as in other cities that are close to Washington's size. And murders in Washington have continued to fall. If you compare the first six months of this year to the first six months of 2008, the same time immediately preceding the Supreme Court's late June "Heller" decision, murders have now fallen by thirty-four percent. Gun crimes also fell more than non-gun crimes. Robberies with guns fell by 25%, while robberies without guns have fallen by eight percent. Assaults with guns fell by 37%, while assaults without guns fell by 12%. Just as with right-to-carry laws, when law-abiding citizens have guns some criminals stop carrying theirs. The benefit could have been even greater. Getting a handgun permit in Chicago and Washington is an expensive and difficult process, meaning only the relatively wealthy go through it. Through the end of May only 2,144 people had handguns registered in Chicago. That limits the benefits from the Supreme Court decisions since it is the poor who are the most likely victims of crime and who benefit the most from being able to protect themselves. The biggest change for Washington was the Supreme Court striking down the law making it illegal to have a loaded gun. Over 70,000 people have permits for long guns that they can now legally used to protect themselves. Lower crime rates in Chicago and Washington, by themselves, don’t prove that gun control increases murders, even when combined with the quite familiar story of how their murder rates soared and stayed high after the gun bans were imposed. But these aren’t isolated examples. Around the world, whenever guns are banned, murder rates rise. Gun control advocates explained the huge increases in murder and violent crime rates Chicago and Washington by saying that those bans weren’t fair tests unless the entire country adopted a ban. Yet, even island nations, such as Ireland and the U.K. -- with no neighbors to blame -- have seen increases in murder rates. The same horror stories about blood in the streets have surrounded the debate over concealed handguns. Some said it was necessary to ban guns in public places. The horror stories never came true and the data is now so obvious that as of November, only one state, Illinois, will still completely ban law-abiding from carrying concealed handguns. Forty-one states will have either permissive right-to-carry laws or no longer even require a permit. The regulations that still exist in Chicago and Washington primarily disarm the most likely victims of crime. Hopefully, even the poor in these areas will soon also have more of an opportunity to defend themselves, too. John R. Lott, Jr. is a Fox News.com contributor and the author of the revised third edition of "More Guns, Less Crime (University of Chicago Press, 2010)." Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/09/30/media-silence-is-deafening-about-important-gun-news/?intcmp=obnetwork#ixzz1ZrMXdQyZ

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Thanks for joining Tripledeuce. Are they messing with you? Keep us posted on your progress BTW in an effort to avoid confusion and compatability questions for others I would like to mention only Armalite makes an AR-10. The RRA LAR-8 is a completely different beast despite appearances. Good to have you here. <thumbsup>

+1 for the Armalite. What model are you considering?

Any of you guys tried these?

raining here right now. Kinda chilly, even for a fat guy like me.

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