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http://www.guns.com/2012/12/20/brownells-sells-3-5-years-worth-of-magazines-in-36-hours/

Does the date take leap year and daylight savings into account? I hate good bye's and only want to say it once. ;D

funny stuff guys <thumbsup>

When I was a kid my best friend across the street "Ben" was from a very strong hunting family. In fact his grandfather worked at Orvis, sort of a fly fishing instructor to the stars. Bens father was responsible for getting me (us) to shoot competitively in a .22 youth league. As we got older his dad took us trap and skeet shooting regularly. Then we turned 21 and it was time for our pistol permits. His old man as not too kind (behind my back) Stating that only cowards needed to carry a gun. I thought it odd but hey whatever. Then I got my colt Sporter. Holy cow you would think I brought home the anti christ. His dad never did warm to handguns or the AR's. Ben and I eventually parted ways It's funny I come from from a family of hunters though I never really adopted the passion. Nobody in my family said one thing or another about my firearm choices and lifestyle. Dad never steered me towards anything, never gave an opinion. Side story: The person most responsible for my interest in guns was a family friend "Bud" who worked for the FBI. My parents referred to him as a treasury agent. Bud had something to do with the firearm manufacturers here in CT. He was always bringing me collectables from his visits. A lot of tie tacks and pins. Eventually even parts like raw stocks for projects. Bud had big plans for me. Sadly he died before anything came to be. The other person was our local police chief. I still recall him taking me to the local sport shop and helping me pick a holster. Funny how times have changed.

Unfortunately there are many hunters who are not firearm enthusiasts. They too do not understand the platform and believe what they are fed by the media and politicians. I recall sitting in this little diner/gas station/laundromat/video rental place "The Tamarac" in the north country of New York's Adirondacks. There was a group of hunters just back from the hunt discussing that "nobody needs those things". The fact that a Remington 7400 and Browning BAR's is equal to or more powerful and functionally equivalent to an AR15 is beyond their grasp. Some of this is also a generation gap. Some older shooters Ive spoken with not only see no need for an AR15 they are also opposed the carrying a handgun for protection. We may all share a love for firearms but we are also divided and thats not good.

RC helicopters are a blast.

Wow is right

Register and sign the petition here. From GA Hi Everyone Good news! It looks like we will hit the 25,000 signatures needed on our Whitehouse.gov petition that will require President Obama or his staff to answer. Bad news! It won't matter that much. The anti-gun petition is being fueled by the mainstream media and is up over 160,000 signatures. It is a record for the petition system since it began. The second place petition is also anti-gun and currently has over 30,000 signatures. You guys couldn't even beat the also ran. Bad news #2! While over 60,000 of you clicked into the petition website page yesterday (yes, we count), only 20,000 of you signed the petition. We understand your need for privacy, but the government already knows who you are. They scan in all of your 4473 forms! ARE YOU GOING TO STAND OR ARE YOU GOING TO TRY TO HIDE? Over 1350 websites linked to our petition today, but it just isn't good enough. We need the major firearm manufacturers to post the link in their Facebooks, and that means you need to go post it on all of their Facebook pages. Many of them have fans in excess of a quarter million. WILL YOU ALL BE SILENT WHILE NANCY AND HARRY SALIVATE OVER OUR GUN RIGHTS? NEWS FLASH: The NRA shut down their 1.7 million strong Facebook page today. This petition is the only pro-gun petition in the running. The Whitehouse petition site may not be the perfect place to plead the case of the law abiding American gun owner, but it is all we have. GunsAmerica is only one website. We email over 700,000 subscribers, but it isn't enough against a media barrage from every major network and online outlet, reaching into the tens of millions. If you have a website with readers, a blog, anything, please link it directly to the petition page on the Whitehouse website. Do not link to the GunsAmerica Blog page. The full letter is not what matters now. It is purely that number that matters, and if we can get it up to 50,000 today Drudge will probably pick it up. It is our only hope to have a voice in this discussion. It is up to us to do the heavy lifting through these first few days. Please sign the peition, and help out if you can.

They were coming for the guns regardless of this. Emboldened by the re-election win. Now they conveniently have faces to attach to it. It's the perfect storm and we need to fight back aggressively on all fronts.

My anger is with the Connecticut law makers. The democrats have been shaping and controlling policy here for just over 40 years. If there was ever a perfect example of the silliness of an AWB CT is it. Our AWB predates the Federal ban. I have not heard any mention of the CT AWB. If you listen to the local radio and news that talk as if there is not one in place. Hell the politicians are calling for a ban here. Blatant lies and politicizing are ruling the day and the conversation. I say shame on them for thinking signs and happy thoughts would protect anyone. The blood is on their hands too.

Not that their is a great detail. <thumbsup>

I gotta tell you guys the atmosphere around here is absolutely dreadful. Im personally having trouble sleeping. Just cant stop thinking about these kids. I have a vision of how the classrooms must have looked and I cant shake it. So many people know somebody connected to this. Last friday the local DJ's got a call from a woman rushing to the school because her sister worked there. The DJ's tried to calm her down telling her that the sister was probably just busy with all that was going on and could not answer her phone. Well Monday she called back. Sadly her sister was the psychologist who was killed. Very tough to listen to. There was a picture shown only once of a first responder carrying a little girl in his arms....then there was the little girl covered in blood. The one survivor in the classroom, she played dead. Yesterday on my way home from work the guy on the radio stated that friday they want everyone to ring a bell 26 times. Not sure why but that was the one that did me in. I just started crying. So far I dont have any personal connections and I feel this bad. I cant imagine how the first responders feel let alone the families of the deceased. I never finished decorating for xmas. Not going to bother. Just feels wrong to celebrate or even smile. The only time I stop thinking about the kids is when I play Bioshock on the 360.

http://news.yahoo.com/mass-school-bombing-1927-puts-sandy-hook-context-185608674.html The Sandy Hook tragedy in Connecticut has horrified Americans and in some cases, opened up wounds from a similar disaster in 1927 that have yet to heal. Aftermath of the Bath disaster. Source: Wikimedia Commons. On Friday, a deranged gunman killed himself and 26 other people at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. The dead included 20 students, and the act sparked mass mourning and outrage worldwide. The debate over the Sandy Hook tragedy has also led to discussions about gun control, mental illness, and the media’s role in covering such a horrific story. In particular, the debate over assault weapons and the Second Amendment will be brought to the forefront in 2013. President Barack Obama pretty much said so at a public memorial event on Sunday night. But what if such a terrible even happened in a different time? How would people have reacted, and would there be such a public outrage or intense debate about constitutional issues? On May 18, 1927, a part-time caretaker at a school in Bath, Michigan, killed 45 people, including 38 children, when he blew up a school and then killed himself, along with two first responders at the scene. Another 58 people were wounded. The 38 children were in grades three through six. The Bath School Bombing faded quickly from history. What media there was in 1927 left the town after about a week, since aviator Charles Lindbergh had started on his flight to Europe. However, there are parallels between the Sandy Hook and Bath disasters that are worth discussing. The killer in the Bath School Bombing, Andrew Kehoe, spent months placing explosives inside the school. He used his job as a handyman to wire together two types of explosives, in an elaborate plan to bring down the building while it was occupied with students and teachers. Kehoe also rigged his car with explosives and shrapnel, as well as his house. Once Kehoe blew up his own house, he used a detonator to blow up part of the school. School Superintendent Emory Huyck performed heroically, rescuing children and adults from the disaster scene. After about 30 minutes, Kehoe drove up to Huyck and motioned him over to his truck. Kehoe then blew up the truck, killing himself, Hucyk, and several others, including a child who survived the first blast. Investigators later found more than 500 pounds of unexploded dynamite under the school. Kehoe had intended to kill hundreds of people, mostly students, but his wiring was faulty. Kehoe had financial problems and was upset about having to pay taxes. He had killed his own wife before blowing up his house. But the parallels to Sandy Hook are not in the method and motivation behind Kehoe’s madness. They come from the stories of heroism and compassion. Bath was a small town, so all pitched in to clear the rubble, find the victims, and offer assistance. Help streamed in from the neighboring town of Lansing. Michigan’s governor arrived that afternoon and helped to cart away the rubble. During the rescue efforts, the Michigan State Police had to disarm the huge cache of explosives that never went off. In the days that followed, contemporary accounts said more than 50,000 people descended on Bath, either to offer help or to see the disaster scene. “Relief workers could not get in or out of the village unless accompanied by motorcycle policemen and even then they made slow time,” said one newspaper account. In the end, the state set up a relief fund for the school, which received numerous public and private donations. One politician wrote a personal check for $75,000. And the population of Bath, once the outsiders left, went back to farming and grieved. Unlike today, there were no 24-hour TV news cameras remaining on the scene or talk shows debating the merits of the Second Amendment. But the wounds from the Bath School Bombing followed the survivors for generations. In recent years, people who were in the building were opening up about their experiences, as they reached their 90s. In 2009, National Public Radio spoke with two survivors and the daughter of a third. “You wouldn’t think a church member could do such a thing, would you?” said a 97-year-old man, Willis Cressman. “He was the caretaker of the school. In fact, I saw him that morning. He was working on a door, and he smiled at us as we walked in.” Recent Constitution Daily Stories America’s first rock star: Benjamin Franklin in France Mass shootings renew Second Amendment weapons debate Obama says he won’t prosecute pot smokers in two states Cressman’s niece noted something that will also follow the Sandy Hook survivors throughout their lives. “Years later, we still look at ourselves as survivors. So you look after one another differently, because you know that the absolute unthinkable can happen, even going to school,” said Johanna Cushman-Balzer. The Bath disaster hadn’t been entirely forgotten in recent years. In July, The Christian Science Monitor spoke with author Arnie Bernstein, who spoke extensively with Bath survivors when he wrote his book, Bath Massacre: America’s First School Bombing. “When I came in, it had been eight decades, and nobody had talked about it. It was just this scar on the land,” Bernstein said. He also spoke with a 99-year-old woman who wanted to describe what happened to her young brother, who was killed in the explosion, so other generations could understand. “Out of that horror, out of the one or two people who commit these kinds of crimes, comes the good, the tremendous good that you see in the wake of these things. Our humanity comes through in the face of evil and the inexplicable,” Bernstein told the Monitor. According to a detailed website about the Bath disaster, only 13 survivors were alive as of October 2012. Scott Bomboy is the editor-in-chief of the National Constitution Center.

WTF i everyone going to just roll over? Whats next? Halt production?

Locally they keep referring to the "Bushmaster Carbine" because we already have an AWB here in CT. CT is a model for why these laws are useless. They go after the tool used in the crime rather than the tool committing the crime.

Problem is once you taste SSD's there's no going back

Im losing my mind. I bought a Lenovo not an HP <lmao>

very nice

Thanks, "All Mountain" is a new category for this old fart. I figured it was an off shoot of DH based on a few frames I saw. The closest bike shop to me is a Specialized dealer. I will have to check them out for sure. I have issue with my finger on my right hand and I need to be very picky of controls. Basically I have no fingers past the knuckle on digits 2-4 My favorite LBS carries Cannondale, Felt and I think Trek.

Carrying over from the other thread Im considering taking the AR15 route and building a mountain bike EXACTLY as I want. Frame prices are pretty scary. We know that wont stop me. Any thoughts on XC frames $2500 and under?

The media is disgusting and should be ashamed of themselves. Today the ME did a news conference. These assholes were asking what the bullets did to the bodies. Did they go through or stay in the bodies, how many bullets were in the bodies, how many dead in each classroom. They lack any sensitivity for the families. Shame on them, shame on them all.

BTW my home pc is a monster. X79 Asus Sabertooth, 32gb Corsair vengence ram, Water cooled socket 2011 quad core cpu, Samsung SSD etc

It's been my experience that the SSD's are pretty unreliable and flakey. My exception has been the Samsung 830's. The 840 is 10 better.

Thanks, the bike does have a few shortcomings despite my upgrades. There was a geometry issue with this and they were a little prone to chainsuck. Upgrading to the XTR drive train reduced but did not eliminate sudden death at the worst times. The trails here are narrow, very rocky with lots of trees and roots. The bike is horrible at hopping over stuff. My old Cannondale M800 would have been 4 feet in the air with the effort I put into hopping over a 8" fallen tree with the sugar. It's also not a great climber. It does digest well the rocks in dried up streams.

ahh crap this is just as I figured. I need a new mountain bike <lmao> Below is a picture from when my sugar was new