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From the Washington Times. The Obama administration is making it easier for bureaucrats to take away guns without offering the accused any realistic due process. In a final rule published last week, the Justice Department granted the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) authority to “seize and administratively forfeit property involved in controlled-substance abuses.” That means government can grab firearms and other property from someone who has never been convicted or even charged with any crime. It’s a dangerous extension of the civil-forfeiture doctrine, a surreal legal fiction in which the seized property — not a person — is put on trial. This allows prosecutors to dispense with pesky constitutional rights, which conveniently don’t apply to inanimate objects. In this looking-glass world, the owner is effectively guilty until proved innocent and has the burden of proving otherwise. Anyone falsely accused will never see his property again unless he succeeds in an expensive uphill legal battle. Such seizures are common in drug cases, which sometimes can ensnare people who have done nothing wrong. James Lieto found out about civil forfeiture the hard way when the FBI seized $392,000 from his business because the money was being carried by an armored-car firm he had hired that had fallen under a federal investigation. As the Wall Street Journal reported, Mr. Lieto was never accused of any crime, yet he spent thousands in legal fees to get his money back. Law enforcement agencies love civil forfeiture because it’s extremely lucrative. The Department of Justice’s Assets Forfeiture Fund had $2.8 billion in booty in 2011, according to a January audit. Seizing guns from purported criminals is nothing new; Justice destroyed or kept 11,355 guns last year, returning just 396 to innocent owners. The new ATF rule undoubtedly is designed to ramp up the gun-grabbing because, as the rule justification claims, “The nexus between drug trafficking and firearm violence is well established.” The main problem is that civil forfeiture creates a perverse profit motive, leaving bureaucrats with strong incentives to abuse a process that doesn’t sufficiently protect those who may be wrongly accused. Criminal forfeiture is more appropriate because it’s tied to a conviction in a court with the option of a jury trial and evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. Innocents like Mr. Lieto have to fight against the might of the U.S. government with a watered-down standard that stacks the legal deck so prosecutors can get a quick win. The rule extending civil-forfeiture power to the ATF recognizes this dynamic, stating with perhaps unconscious cynicism that an uncontested civil forfeiture “can be perfected for minimal cost” compared to the “hundreds or thousands of dollars” and “years” needed for judicial forfeiture. Nowhere is there any recognition of the burden placed on innocent citizens stripped of their property, or of the erosion of their civil liberties. In fact, the rule argues that, because in the past the ATF could turn over requests for civil forfeiture to the Drug Enforcement Administration, there has been no change in “individual rights.” Instead of expanding the profit motive in policing, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. should be working to eliminate it. Read more: GHEI: ATF's latest gun grab - Washington Timeshttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/6/atfs-latest-gun-grab/#ixzz26D9omzQ3

I should have been a little more specific. I'm asking what you guys actually do. I'm not concerned about spring life. I ordered 20 more mags today. With my existing mags I should be able to have 2500 round in mags. Im going to leave 420 rounds of federal XM855 in a factory sealed can. I only own a few Magpul PMAGS because they photograph well. I mostly have Colt factory, C Products, Brownells and DH magazines

This thread here was my inspiration

I want one. Nice man.

I have only had one carrier that didnt have a stiff bolt. That was my first unit from Fulton Armory in 2008. All the rest have been a little snug. I lube them up and play with them while watching tv. Phosphate or Chrome made no difference.

Im thinking to save some space that I might load up my AR15 mags and store them in the MTM 50 Ammo Cans. I ordered 6 to mess with. Currently I do have a bunch of mags loaded but I have many mags and Im tripping over ammo. Somethings gotta give.

Thats when it was new in 02

:(

Fantastic!!!

pretty neat though I was expecting something much different ;D

Ive been drooling over one of these

<laughs>

welcome

it is, in fact it's neglected because I have hardly got out the past two years.

In this case I ordered from a dealer. Yes you pay up front and the dealer holds it until the feds give the ok.

that is badass <thumbsup>

just getting this one out of the way to start another..you know the deal <laughs>

Thought I smelled roast beef <lmao>

very nice <thumbsup>

Not sure if I posted the finished rifle previously.

welcome

umm this one ;D

This showed up in my inbox the other day. Not sure what to think with no visible logo, home pictures. Was no functional website at the time of this email but there appears to be one now. <dontknow>

Nice job for sure. Newbs could benefit from the installation portion.

Welcome!!