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Love ya, brother, but that's not what I asked. What I specifically asked was how many times the 1934 NFA was changed. Period. I'd like an answer - from anyone here - as to how many times the 1934 NFA has been changed. Nothing more, for that singular question. No rhetoric, no bullshiit - just an answer to that question I posed... It was a pretty simple question...

Go read that calguns thread, brother, all the way through. If you're gonna quote it, you need to know it.

Get to it, Hotwrench. Be that guy.

I could probably fly there, and eat with you, before mine will be done...

Good one! In the last 84 years, how many times have the 1934 NFA laws been changed?!...

I just now got through all 7 pages on the calguns thread (7 pages as of now). This is one convoluted series of charges, with alot of different factors involved, and it's not simply an act of "life ruined after compromise..." It's just not. It's not simple, and it's not what the thread title would lead you to believe, here. In order to gain the full perspective on all this, one must read the entire 7 pages (right now) on calguns, in order to fully understand all this bullshiit. Any furthermore, it's California. That adds it's own complication, in itself.

Shiit... I'm still hours away...

This is from the calguns link up there ^^^, from leadchucker... Summed it up very accurately. This is a liberal-state issue. This is not a free-state issue. For a true 2A country, the first step has to be the dismantling of all these anti-2A states, and their entrapment laws for law abiding citizens. Their primary goal is grabbing all guns is to regulate them into oblivion, and turn the law-abiding citizen into a felon, in an instant. That's the only way they can do it. They don't give one shiit about criminals with guns. They just want gun abolition.

I do the same thing, brother - cook on weekends, and it goes to work throughout the week. Poblano peppers are badass for slow cooking, when you catch them at the poblano stage. The Poblano/Ancho is the same pepper, at different stages. The poblano isn't quite ripe yet, and has a slow, low heat to it. You let that thing ripen into the red Ancho, and it's adding some good heat to what you're cooking! Poblanos are perfect for a low, slow cooking application. For years now, I've grown my own pepper/tomato garden. This summer is the first year I haven't. I usually have a dozen different types of peppers going, and it runs very early spring to very late fall here - I get a bunch, throughout that time frame. I used to grow Aleppo peppers, but haven't for about 3 years now. They are perfect for all kinds of cooking - but the shiit in Syria makes them hard to get. I'm going to try to get a few more now, but it's late in the season to try to grab them. They grow slow. Those were the only ones I brought inside every year, to keep them going. Most peppers, I grow, pick, vacuum seal and freeze. The Aleppo, you could grow, and dry very easily. It's incredible, dried, diced, and mixed in with whatever you want to cook.

Damn. Powerful movie. One of the best things I've seen in a long time. Just finished it, and very glad I watched it, brother.

Yep,Virginia does have issues. I lived there, so I know what you're talking about.

Not grilling, but getting ready to turn the Crock Pot loose again, with about 6lbs of beef roast. Bed of potato, then yellow onion, both diced/cubed. In will go the roast once the salt-cure is done. Different bell peppers all around, onion soup mix on top of the roasts, pepperoncinis all over the top of that, then the mushrooms (heavily salted) on top. High for 4 hours, low for a few more... Once it cooks down for a few hours, there will be room for the mushrooms.

Move to California, and start to turn it around, then.

Wouldn't it have been nice for that guy in Cali to have Federal Semi-Auto License, in this idea, which would render those asinine Cali state laws moot?...

This is a fine example of a state that only wants confiscation via registration. That specific state, as well as NY, CT, NJ, MA, VT now, and a few large cities, have only created laws that have one goal in mind - turn previously law abiding citizens into felons with the stroke of a pen, and a vote that came from a very liberal group of gun-grabbers. The CalGuns discussion has alot of information in it, and pertinent details. This guy had several firearms that didn't meet the older laws for Cali, let alone the newest stuff.

That is in place, right now, and has been for a very long time. You obtain a "license" in the form of a Tax Stamp in order to buy a suppressor, Short-barreled firearms, Any Other Weapon items, full-auto machine guns, Destructive Devices... It's been in effect for the last 84 years. It is managed by the federal govt. There are not govt overreach problems, and crazy confiscations coming from that. There just aren't. Now, would this plan: Free up some of those NFA items for individuals that would complete the process for this "Fed Semi-Auto License?" Yes it would. Once licensed, you can buy some of those NFA items straight over the counter - no packet to fill out, and wait your 12~14 months for approval and stamp issuance. "Hey, Gun Dealer, that's a pretty impressive SD-N6 you've got there! How much is it?..." Out the door with you, and your new SD-N6. It gets even better - those items are no longer "registered NFA items." They're not recorded. The only thing that is verified is that you are licensed to purchase these items. That's it. There's no database, no list - no one knows what you own, just that you are a licensee. That's it. Now, for those that want to Repeal The NFA - don't you think this would be a pretty logical step in that goal? After all, you just took some of the items off the NFA, through this process. Wouldn't that be a step in the right direction, baby-steps-wise, in a complete repeal?

Telling you right now, I've had about enough of it.

Get it rolling, then - that's my point. That article listed a pretty damned good idea in how to get something for the 2A, looks like a compromise to the other side, and gives away nothing (in fact gains a few items back, out of the NFA Tax Stamp process). Anonymous or not, legislation or not - that idea has a better foundation than "repeal the NFA" as a statement, with nothing to outline it. Education-educate everyone - I've been preaching that for years, and actually went out and did it. I've been pushing Appleseed for years, and was an Appleseed instructor for 3 years. I can tell you this about education - the other side wins an overwhelming victory inthe information war, as soon as they capitalize on a mass shooting. Their biggest victory to date was Parkland, when they were able to a huge chunk of those kids in that school into political pawns. That movement went nation-wide in a matter of days. There's now a whole generation of kids that aren't even old enough to vote, and they're now Anti-2A, and probably will be for life. Education is a slow process, a hard process, and the gains are easily erased as soon as more Antis are born, out of mass shooting politicizing. So, come up with a framework on "repeal the NFA." Get it pitched, get people behind it, and get it rolling. Everything pitched on "repeal the NFA" hasn't been able to gain traction, to date. There needs to be a way to get that done. Until then, this article idea gives you back some NFA items, in the mean time. If that isn't a huge victory, I don't know what is...

I'm glad you did, too - that's an easy answer to a hard-to-overcome issue. Brilliant. For those that didn't catch the linked article that was in that sale link, here it is: http://commonbullets.com/wp/archives/1727

I've listened to it throughout this thread. From you. If you can't have a conversation, and have to resort to what you have been doing, then it's taking a turn in a different direction, and it will rapidly. You take that for what it's worth.

You keep up with the slams and insults, and this conversation is going to take a different turn.

I adopted that plan as well, in a conversation with Matt Cross. I relayed that convo to Rob, and gamed it all out - with everything I need for this fall shoot, its gonna be tough to get it all together in time... SO, why not just buy the barrel and rebarrel an old 308 that I don't shoot?... I did steal the idea from you, though, brother...

However, it's the most thought out plan of attack yet. It's an actual plan of action, with details, on how to accomplish a huge win for the 2A side, give us more freedoms than we currently have (it actually gives you back two or three classes of NFA items, over the counter, zero wait time). It gives you all this and no record of transaction - just verification that "you're licensed." In addition, I'm pretty positive that the article stated that it would be Federal Law in it's base, and states could not over-ride the basic freedoms in that law - which would be a huge win for those proud 2A supporters in restrictive states - CA, NY NJ,CT, MA, VT now... If it's a win for them, it's a win for all of us countrywide.