Brandon0405 Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Does anyone know who if they make aftermarket barrels for the saint victor .308? I’m looking for and 18” upgrade to the stock 16”, but can’t find any info on upgrades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, Brandon0405 said: Does anyone know who if they make aftermarket barrels for the saint victor .308? I’m looking for and 18” upgrade to the stock 16”, but can’t find any info on upgrades Just out of curiosity, why the 18" rather than the 16"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Cuz who wouldn’t want to be 2” longer? i figured this question would come up, but I think instead of talk him out of it, maybe we can figure it out. I don’t know much about the Saint. Can’t imagine they would have gone full proprietary for the barrels though- although that is how companies keep you buying only their gear. How do we figure out what the pattern is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, DNP said: Cuz who wouldn’t want to be 2” longer? i figured this question would come up, but I think instead of talk him out of it, maybe we can figure it out. I don’t know much about the Saint. Can’t imagine they would have gone full proprietary for the barrels though- although that is how companies keep you buying only their gear. How do we figure out what the pattern is? I'm not falling victim to the rule! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 poop. I hope they aren’t CA legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon0405 Posted April 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Just wanted to know because I can’t find any info on it, and wanted to know what options I had. Im new to this AR platform and don’t know a ton about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Brandon0405 said: Does anyone know who if they make aftermarket barrels for the saint victor .308? I’m looking for and 18” upgrade to the stock 16”, but can’t find any info on upgrades Looks like it is standard DPMS pattern bolt/barrel combo. Found this on BARF.com, here's a link: https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/SA-Saint-Victor-308-/121-745624/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon0405 Posted April 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Thank you for the info. I appreciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 No problem, if you end up swapping barrels try to get a headspaced bolt with it. A lot of places will do this for you free of charge, just the cost of the barrel/bolt. All they do is disassemble a bolt, verify it is properly headspaced to the chamber of "that" barrel, reassemble and ship it if it checks out. Then I always check it myself when it arrives. If you don't have headspace gauges for it, I would order a set too. All you really need is GO and NO-GO guages. Take the ejector out of the bolt prior to checking. I like my 18" 308, it strikes a pretty nice balance and isn't terribly wieldy in the brush. Are you re-barreling it to try to get better accuracy? If so, the quality of whichever barrel you choose will be important. Quality large frame barrels are spendy, I have had good luck with Criterion 308 barrels, they are a little more than a Ballistic Advantage and they are a better barrel in my expierince, they also make 6.5CM barrels for the large frame if your wanting to go that route. Rainer Arms makes good 308 AR barrels, ready to order. If your wanting a full custom job on a Bartlein, Kreiger, etc blank, Craddick Precision turns some nice tubes too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 18 hours ago, Brandon0405 said: Does anyone know who if they make aftermarket barrels for the saint victor .308? I’m looking for and 18” upgrade to the stock 16”, but can’t find any info on upgrades I will say it again, why? Your 16” will get you to 800 yds. We want to educate you, not change your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Here's a good reference on correlation between barrel length and velocity in 308: https://rifleshooter.com/2014/12/308-winchester-7-62x51mm-nato-barrel-length-versus-velocity-28-to-16-5/ The difference really isn't much between 16" & 18", the barrel tested above was cut to 16.5" actually, I'm not sure if that 0.5" makes any difference at all, but velocity was 2466 & 2523 respectively, on the 168SMK. It's also worth noting that "stiffer" barrels are usually more accurate. Shorter = Stiffer... A 16" or 18" barrel will make hits at longer ranges, the difference between the two is minimal. Plus every barrel is different, some shoot faster than others. You are going to have to work up "dope" no matter what length you have, out to the range you wish to shoot it too. All that said, most factory barrels are going to be a little more frustrating to get dope for. Because they just aren't made to the same tolerances a lot of aftermarket/custom barrels are. There's always an exception, I've seen factory 700 barrels shoot on par with a custom job. They are rare, but some do. It depends on what you are wanting to do with it, do you just want to ring steel at longer range? Hunting? Match shooting? That will determine a lot of what you want out of a replacement barrel. It all depends on what your intended purpose is for this rig. I think that will help everyone point you in the right direction, if your looking for recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jflo1987 Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 I have a Saint Victor - .308. I just bought a Wilson Combat 20" Super Sniper and was able to install it. You can replace the stock barrel with any barrel that fits the DPMS pattern. The hardest part I encountered was removing the gas block pin on the stock barrel so I could use the stock Barrel Nut. I actually ordered another handguard and barrel nut because the pin was so tough to get out. I ended up drilling it out, but was able to get it removed - the gas block got destroyed in the process. oops. I will admit that I have not shot this yet, but I will shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonscout Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 J Flo and Brandon, since you have the Victors, give me a real intel dump on how they shoot. Characteristics. how you broke them in, groups, best factory load, etc. I'm ready to buy, but haven't seen a lot of real world feedback. The glossy videos are great, but I've wanted an auto .308 for a looong time and my money come VERY hard. I wanted, or thought I wanted a 12 - 13" pistol length, but don't know if I want to wait. School me brothers, tell me what you think...thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Dragonscout said: tell me what you think...thx Build one, Aero is having a blem sale this weekend, I have bought many and have a hard time finding the blem. Their receiver sets are a solid starting base and a good price; https://www.aeroprecisionusa.com/sale/blemished They also have a military discount, send them a DD214 with serial number blanked out and they will set you up with a 10% discount. Once a year they let you combine the military discount with the sale, can't remember if it was veterans day or 4th of July maybe, I have a pile of their blem receivers because of that sale....... @98Z5V is somewhat responsible as he pointed this out to me, pay it forward you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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