Piston .308 question

[D.R.D.]

I'm sure this has been asked before, however, I wasn't able to find it when I search.  If there is already an existing thread, feel free to post the link.

 

1.  Do piston .308 ARs really run THAT much cleaner than DI?  

 

2. What factory Piston 308AR (full rifle or just upper) tends to show the best groups at 600-1000 yards?

I guess I'm doing the age old LWRC, PWS, POF, LMT debate.  That said, is there any data or observations beyond just one single rifle's performance? It's be great to read something like "16-18 inch barrels on LWRC REPRs consistently seem to outperform POFs of similar size at 800+ yards with Berger 175s by X MOA"  

 

Thanks all

[survivalshop]

  I don't think you will find anything with in those parameters .

How well they shoot is a matter of many different factors , including the shooter.

[D.R.D.]

Granted. I understand your point. I guess I'm just trying to find out if it would be harder to push any one of those brands at distance over another.

[D.R.D.]

Granted. I understand your point. I guess I'm just trying to find out if it would be harder to push any one of those brands at distance over another.

[Rsquared]

It's all relevant at that point though. My son has a LWRCI REPR (rifle), and I have a POF SBR. Both 308....both piston systems.......but two totally different animals.

[D.R.D.]

Rsquared,

Can you elaborate on their performance differences? Pros/cons (focusing on utilizing the platforms for accuracy) and ease of cleaning compared to one another and to a DI gun?

Thanks

[edgecrusher]

I have both platforms. I'm not sure what you are looking for here. How long do you plan to go with out cleaning? These guns aren't hard to clean. I can go two or three range sessions before I clean any of my guns but don't. I have done it, without any negative or adverse affect on the weapons function. I won't do that though generally. As for accuracy, what are you looking for here? 1/8 moa better one over the other? I would bet my salary you couldn't do that repeatedly with any range session unless you are a gun vice bench rest type of guy. More lies on you and your ability to shoot. Your making a mountain out of a ant hill. If you have the dough to choose, I would pick a LWRC over the POF, or a LaRue OBR over both (because I did and it is a shooter out of the box that makes me look gooood!)

The distances you are asking about are going to require a piece of glass to match the rifle as well, so don't go skimping there.

And practice. Lots of it

[D.R.D.]

Edgecrusher,
Thanks for the reply. I hear your points. Just thinking about a piston upper for one of my builds. Just mental games really. But why do you say lwrc over pof, for instance? What about lmt or pws? And yes, a nice optic, good ammo & practice will surely be in the mix.

Edited August 28, 2014 by D.R.D.

[edgecrusher]

I have a PWS and believe it's more a battle rifle, but mine has a 14.5" barrel. I have heard of more people using the rifles I suggested for precision work. Doesn't mean the others can't. Keep in mind if you go POF I believe it isn't compatible and it'll have to be a complete rifle, same with the LWRC. Not so sure on the LMT, but FarKle has one, ask him what he's wrung out of it.

All in all I'm not sold on the piston set up and won't do it again on an AR rifle. DI works, well, and I clean my rifles. Can't imagine I'd ever shoot so much it's an issue in one range session

[D.R.D.]

Cool, thanks.

[Robocop1051]

Fwiw... I went over a year without cleaning my DI .308AR. That included my trip to AZ, and several hundred rounds of ammo.. Just shoot and put away. Never had a FTE/FTF. Never used a drop of lube either!

Use good parts and you should be good to go.

[D.R.D.]

nice. I think I'll scrap the piston idea and save it for my AK build.