jtallen83

Damn you Sir, suckered me into another look at that irrelevant hag!

She didn't win, why should I care what she would do?

Brothers, hurry and add more posts so we can get to a page without the hags face on it !

I am not following the connection with this licensing scheme and Hillary???? She did not win so it doesn't matter what she might have done, what matters is what future politicians will do if we give them the tools.

Yes, let's get the fertilizing over with! Food for thought from people that were there; “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ― Samuel Adams When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil. Thomas Jefferson Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry. Thomas Jefferson It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority. Benjamin Franklin I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. James Madison There would have been little to none. What would happen if a person like Hitlery were to inherit a licence system in the future?

What about your brothers? Maybe your good, my nephew had issues, he worked on it and is good now, no worries. You gonna let them take his guns because some jackoff decides he ain't good?

Did the trust thing, no fingerprints, no picturers, still had to swallow the vomit that kept rising in my throat. Feel free to keep living in their paradigm, Realistic or not I choose to change the paradigm. This right here is where we should be. We need to create our own reality, not live in theirs. If we don't make repeal the NFA our goal it will damn sure never happen.

If it is a repeal the NFA and replace with a semi auto license I might think about it.....thought about it, just repeal the fuking NFA and get the Fuk out of my 2A. It all sounds too much like the creepy guy that asks the kids if they want a sucker,l the kid gets something sweet but what comes after could be life altering.

Those are facts, just not facts that I think guarantee nothing bad will come from gun control. Just IMHO, I do not trust authority of any type, I have seen the US government break laws, congress investigate and then say it didn't happen. They can do anything they damn well please. Just a matter of time before it goes to far and the Jefferson quote becomes a reality, again.

The Romans, the Greeks, the Persians, the Mongols, and many many more empires thought themselves the exception. What are they now? Schitholes!

Just missed a $69.99 with free shipping sale at PSA, out of stock right now but they regularly have them for that, I'll keep watching.

Call me paranoid, a history buff, or maybe I have some german jew blood in me, they bring me to the same conclusion. I urge you to read this very well researched book, it is an interesting read. Here is a review on it from an EU source; https://mises.org/library/gun-control-nazi-germany

We open ourselves up to future abuse. Big picture, long game, look at history. I would just as soon take a firm stand now than leave this issue for my children and grandchildren to deal with. Call me a hardliner, I don't care, I say not one more inch, NOT ONE! We have been giving inches and feet since before any of us were born but yet here we are today, why would one more inch solve the problem? Study the mechanics of how these men implemented gun control.

But we are giving up part of a 2A right for the sake of a state regulation, that has been part of this discussion, correct? Not much difference where I sit. The second was intended for all of us as a whole, it was carved out as an Americans right to bear arms and put there with the intention that the federal government was to safeguard that right for ALL citizens, they have abdicated that duty. My Great Grandfather turned in his BAR, a great great Uncle turned in his Thompson, did government thugs raid their home and take them, no, but they knew they would be felons if they didn't give them up and that would have made life even tougher for them and their families, the end result was the same, no more full auto for them.

They are not regulated federally, many cities have regulations on their use. If we do not anticipate the abuse of laws and citizens by government then it will for sure happen. It is the way of the Hegelian dialectic, an inevitable fact of humankind's history.

It hasn't happen here, at least since before the revolution....... unless you count all the people that had to hand over their SBR's, silencers, and full autos because they couldn't afford the $200 tax stamp when the NFA was enacted.........cause many did and that was exactly what the government had planned when setting the $200 amount. They knew that it would remove a very large number of these items from circulation because most could never afford it during the depression. Again I say,

They will simply make laws so untenable that we will all be violators. That is how it works historically. It would be nice to think America can avoid the pitfalls of previous countries. It is dangerous to assume we will.

You register your car, the state gives you the privilege of driving by issuing a licence. These are both routinely revoked by states for various infractions. Now you want me to get a licence for my gun so the state can make up violations to take it from me. That is exactly how gun control has historically been enacted. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc. This is exactly how they took the guns away. They routinely take away people's right to vote. Yours they have not been able to take so they water it down with dead people and illegals. When blacks were given the right to vote those in power rapidly found ways to take that right away, poll tax anyone? Even to this day there are places in this country where their votes are suppressed. It can happen here, it has happened here, it will happen here. " Paris Nov. 13. 1787. the people can not be all, & always, well informed. the part which is wrong [. . .] will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. if they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11. years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it’s natural manure." Thomas Jefferson

I was not clear, my bad, gun registration, licensing, whatever you want to call it. Guns are what we are talking about. If I take away your right then give back a portion of it do you still have thew same right? I miss SS ..............even knowing he would support this.

Semantics, they are one in the same.

If I steal your car and then give it back to you did I give you a car? Second amendment rights have been stolen from citizens, getting them back should not be negotiable. I want to help my brothers but giving anything to the bully will only wet their appetite for more, look at history and human nature for proof of this. Why make the majority free states less free so the minority un-free can be just a little more free? I say to my Brothers in the un-free states, rise up, fight, and I will help but don't ask me to give up Liberty to lighten your burden of oppression. Historically registration has ONLY ever led to confiscation, why would I believe this government would not follow that same path? Give me a historical example of registration not leading to confiscation, straight up find one.

I read it. "neither side wants to give an inch.", this is true, I do not want to give up anything to maintain a right I already have. There is a fundamental flaw in his inch statement, there is no hint of the other side considering not taking inches, they offer nothing! This guy is waving the white flag without a fight, giving in to the bully without even a fuk you. Fact is we should be pushing back against the already absurd gun laws in states like cali and mass. not allowing ourselves to inched closer to them. NOT ONE INCH!

I want to know who this industry insider is so I can NOT spend my money in his direction. It is bad enough I have to have a CC license, involve government and it will go against the citizen every time. First a license, next a tax stamp and travel regulations, then comes no newly manufactured semi's for public consumption. No, no and NO to this gun grabber idea!

Welcome from Iowa, via Mississippi!

Movement, slow but movement! We may be able to see some video soon, only from the police though, still nothing from the hotel security cameras. I imagine most of the sheeple have forgotten this issue so they felt safe that a release now will have a minimal impact.