Well.......if you're gonna bring it up. The Elcan optics are pretty nice. Pretty pricey.....but pretty nice. You've got the 1x / 4x (or 6x) mag. I've got one on my 10 SBR. Pretty nice. The "flip" feature is pretty sweet. You kinda get the best of both worlds. And durability? Both the EOtech and the Elcan....you could use them as clubs if you needed to.