She hooked it right in the tip of his bottom jaw other wise I'm sure we woulda lost this one, I don't open water fish them much, but we catch a lot of them ice fishing. I've lost my share of then one of my best days ice fishing I landed a 34 and 35" that were 12 and 14 pounds, and lost one that was probably pushing 40" on a tip up (basically a hand line).