Matt.Cross

168gr is for the weak of heart and mind. I've become a 175gr SMK snob, for future reference.

Awesome!

Muy excellente!

I'm remembering a conversation we had a long time ago about trainees contemplating whether or not to jump hikers and loot them for candy bars.

Back when I first got into the 308 ARs, I had a DPMS build with a JP Enterprises large profile compensator installed. The first time I took that build to the range, I laid down prone beside my shooting bench to get stable and shoot from the bipod. As I laid there loading my mags, a gentleman moved into the shooting bench adjacent to mine and began organizing his gear on the bench. I inserted a freshly loaded mag and proceeded to begin sighting the scope. Every time I pulled the trigger there was a massive concussion, followed by the 'tink' of expended brass, and then shortly after that a different sounding random 'thwock thwock'. I didn't pay attention at first but after about four shots I distinctly noticed a lot of commotion at the adjacent shooting bench. I picked my head up after my 4th shot just in time to see more loaded ammo rolling off the neighboring bench as the man at the bench scrambled to keep his gear from running away with each shot. I stopped firing, helped him retrieve his gear from the ground, and helped him move to the far end of the firing line. He didn't really complain, but he asked "just what the hell are you shooting there sonny?", and he was baffled when I told him it's just a 308. He didn't even know they made ARs in 308, and came back to look it over.

When is this? I'm in southwestern NC...

Sig is awesome, the 365 hasn't had a stellar start, but if even Glocks are still being improved upon, what's a few minor hiccups in a new product.

I thought that might be the case. It's only reprehensible when others take the same attitude, ie. Springfield Armory. Got it. Can't is a world away from won't. I get that it's a matter of standing on principle, but I also get that you're holding them to a standard that you don't apply to yourself. It's not that I'm not comfortable with your choices, it's your perspective vs. your principles that has me puzzled. Spirited rebuttals are awesome, I'm completely cool with everything said so far. I'm just trying to suss out the inconsistencies between your perspective and mine. Don't hate me bro!

I said what I meant. I'm still curious if your methods of avoiding unconstitutional laws are going to be above reproach. You care enough to let folks that you could possibly influence know that you won't be bothering to buy from them. It's difficult to believe that you will offer this much justification despite whatever apathy you have about it.

It was an unconstitutional law, they have a civic duty to avoid it by any means necessary. Will your means of avoiding the law be above reproach when further bans and confiscation begin? I don't think so.

We're all friends and fairly thick-skinned as well, I don't think anyone has been made uncomfortable to be honest. You have shared your perspective and we've shared some of ours, no biggie. I look at it from this perspective: Were everything to go sideways tomorrow, a real SHTF Zombie Apocalypse type situation, I would be conducting my own defense on two levels; my family and my community. As with any defense scenario, there's an order of precedence. I'm going to defend my family first and foremost, then the broader community when my family is secure. A company is no different. When the government is prospectively threatening you, you protect your own first and the industry at large secondarily. There is no sensible reason to begrudge them their efforts to stay in business. Furthermore, it makes no sense to punish the entire company for decisions made by a select few, especially in the absence of communicating your reasoning with the responsible party or parties.

It's Pull-Ups for Glocks! LMAO

Bottom edge, or so it appears....

There's a phenomenally good reason to do exactly that, and furthermore you should take that helpful gentleman up on his offer. He'll have you running like a sewing machine long before PSA has facilitated a return shipping arrangement.

I think it's so cute when the kiddies mock their toys up like the real deal. Somebody is going to be a manufacturer when they grow up!

This is more or less where I'm coming from, albeit from a slightly different rhetorical viewpoint; I can plainly see enough being attempted to interfere with my rights and privileges, I don't need to impose additional ones on myself. The products I buy/use are necessarily useful for and best suited to the role for which I chose them. I don't buy them as an expression of agreement or disagreement with the politics of their respective manufacturers. Furthermore, the companies in question are usually much larger in scale than just the board of directors responsible for the kind of decisions we're discussing. There are a lot of guys like me trying to feed their families and make their company an economic success irregardless of how they feel about the company's politics. I'm not going to contribute to their downfall just because there's a few slimeballs at the top of the corporate ladder.

Unless they stopped selling to the firearms community, I don't see it as abandonment. The argument could just as easily be made that they were trying to stay in business for our benefit. Unless you are actively boycotting the NRA for hiring and paying lobbyists to do the exact same in a broader sense, I don't buy into the legitimacy of the outrage. Businesses trying to grease politicians is nothing new to big industry or big government. Doesn't make the practice right, but if you aren't applying the principle across the board for other consumer products the premise is empty.

Well heck, if enough people adopt that attitude, they won't have to ban or confiscate anything. Just throw enough political embarrassment on our manufacturers and we'll boycott them ourselves. Sounds to me like an anti's wet dream.

Best practice is to buy and sell bolts and barrels together. Correct headspace is pretty much guaranteed that way. Headspace doesn't correct easily on this platform because of timing issues with the receiver pin and gas port.

Everyone have a great Memorial Day! May we never forget the incomprehensible sacrifices that have been made for the sake of our freedom. All those that have given their lives would wish us to celebrate our freedom, but dignify their sacrifices with a few moments of contemplation and reverence as well. It's the least we can do for those who gave their most precious asset to make and keep us free. Have a great Memorial Day.

Love the porn-whispered "Oh my gosh..." at the end, somebody creamed themselves.

Most excellent! Invite him to the Fall Shoot, I'd love to meet him.

That's great input brother, much appreciated.

Meh, what's a little lively discussion amongst brothers? We don't always see eye to eye on everything, we wouldn't learn much of anything if we did. Heck, most of us have already expressed our viewpoints about this very issue, and not at all in concensus. Expecting a discussion that's political in nature not to get a little heated is unrealistic. If you have a point to argue, put it out there as passionately as you please. Just don't descend into petty BS that violates the forum rules. Finally, remember that the overall tone here is intended to make newcomers feel welcome and benefit from sticking around. It doesn't matter how right you are if people are going to disregard you for being an ass. Something for everyone to keep in mind. I wear my "Peacemaker" moniker with the same pride as Tom wears "DEWS", and I will tase anyone I have to in the gonads to restore levity. So ya'll play nice now, ya hear? Carry on!

If they implied it is just one, it is some rumor and propaganda. We're waist-deep in poop stirrers.