Matt.Cross

Shoot dates are now confirmed for the 18th through the 21st. I've got my flights booked and I'm excited about the Fall Shoot!

Desert Fest 2018 begins on location on Thursday. This is a 4 day event this year!

I have used the 168 SMK, and both the .308 Win and 7.62x51 designated 175 SMK versions of FGMM. Probably not more than 100 rounds of the NATO, but enough to determine that I couldn't discern any difference in the accuracy of any of it. The reason for preferring the 175 SMK is entirely ballistics related. Before I found venues to shoot extended distance, I found that at 100 yards I didn't have to change my zero and could shoot 168 and 175 interchangeably without affecting my zero. Since I find myself trying to shoot as much distance as possible these days, I prefer the heavier round for the wind factor and less elevation holdover/dialing.

I know better than to let you stick anything anywhere.... Haven't you damaged me enough?

Thanks, that's exactly what I need to have stuck in my head right now.

I'm not having any trouble finding 175 at reasonable prices, it's all I'm going to buy for now. Speaking of which, I need to pick up another 500 rounds or so, there'll be a couple more PRS matches between now and the Fall Shoot.

168gr is for the weak of heart and mind. I've become a 175gr SMK snob, for future reference.

Awesome!

Muy excellente!

I'm remembering a conversation we had a long time ago about trainees contemplating whether or not to jump hikers and loot them for candy bars.

Back when I first got into the 308 ARs, I had a DPMS build with a JP Enterprises large profile compensator installed. The first time I took that build to the range, I laid down prone beside my shooting bench to get stable and shoot from the bipod. As I laid there loading my mags, a gentleman moved into the shooting bench adjacent to mine and began organizing his gear on the bench. I inserted a freshly loaded mag and proceeded to begin sighting the scope. Every time I pulled the trigger there was a massive concussion, followed by the 'tink' of expended brass, and then shortly after that a different sounding random 'thwock thwock'. I didn't pay attention at first but after about four shots I distinctly noticed a lot of commotion at the adjacent shooting bench. I picked my head up after my 4th shot just in time to see more loaded ammo rolling off the neighboring bench as the man at the bench scrambled to keep his gear from running away with each shot. I stopped firing, helped him retrieve his gear from the ground, and helped him move to the far end of the firing line. He didn't really complain, but he asked "just what the hell are you shooting there sonny?", and he was baffled when I told him it's just a 308. He didn't even know they made ARs in 308, and came back to look it over.

When is this? I'm in southwestern NC...

Sig is awesome, the 365 hasn't had a stellar start, but if even Glocks are still being improved upon, what's a few minor hiccups in a new product.

I thought that might be the case. It's only reprehensible when others take the same attitude, ie. Springfield Armory. Got it. Can't is a world away from won't. I get that it's a matter of standing on principle, but I also get that you're holding them to a standard that you don't apply to yourself. It's not that I'm not comfortable with your choices, it's your perspective vs. your principles that has me puzzled. Spirited rebuttals are awesome, I'm completely cool with everything said so far. I'm just trying to suss out the inconsistencies between your perspective and mine. Don't hate me bro!

I said what I meant. I'm still curious if your methods of avoiding unconstitutional laws are going to be above reproach. You care enough to let folks that you could possibly influence know that you won't be bothering to buy from them. It's difficult to believe that you will offer this much justification despite whatever apathy you have about it.

It was an unconstitutional law, they have a civic duty to avoid it by any means necessary. Will your means of avoiding the law be above reproach when further bans and confiscation begin? I don't think so.

We're all friends and fairly thick-skinned as well, I don't think anyone has been made uncomfortable to be honest. You have shared your perspective and we've shared some of ours, no biggie. I look at it from this perspective: Were everything to go sideways tomorrow, a real SHTF Zombie Apocalypse type situation, I would be conducting my own defense on two levels; my family and my community. As with any defense scenario, there's an order of precedence. I'm going to defend my family first and foremost, then the broader community when my family is secure. A company is no different. When the government is prospectively threatening you, you protect your own first and the industry at large secondarily. There is no sensible reason to begrudge them their efforts to stay in business. Furthermore, it makes no sense to punish the entire company for decisions made by a select few, especially in the absence of communicating your reasoning with the responsible party or parties.

It's Pull-Ups for Glocks! LMAO

Bottom edge, or so it appears....

There's a phenomenally good reason to do exactly that, and furthermore you should take that helpful gentleman up on his offer. He'll have you running like a sewing machine long before PSA has facilitated a return shipping arrangement.

I think it's so cute when the kiddies mock their toys up like the real deal. Somebody is going to be a manufacturer when they grow up!

This is more or less where I'm coming from, albeit from a slightly different rhetorical viewpoint; I can plainly see enough being attempted to interfere with my rights and privileges, I don't need to impose additional ones on myself. The products I buy/use are necessarily useful for and best suited to the role for which I chose them. I don't buy them as an expression of agreement or disagreement with the politics of their respective manufacturers. Furthermore, the companies in question are usually much larger in scale than just the board of directors responsible for the kind of decisions we're discussing. There are a lot of guys like me trying to feed their families and make their company an economic success irregardless of how they feel about the company's politics. I'm not going to contribute to their downfall just because there's a few slimeballs at the top of the corporate ladder.

Unless they stopped selling to the firearms community, I don't see it as abandonment. The argument could just as easily be made that they were trying to stay in business for our benefit. Unless you are actively boycotting the NRA for hiring and paying lobbyists to do the exact same in a broader sense, I don't buy into the legitimacy of the outrage. Businesses trying to grease politicians is nothing new to big industry or big government. Doesn't make the practice right, but if you aren't applying the principle across the board for other consumer products the premise is empty.

Well heck, if enough people adopt that attitude, they won't have to ban or confiscate anything. Just throw enough political embarrassment on our manufacturers and we'll boycott them ourselves. Sounds to me like an anti's wet dream.

Best practice is to buy and sell bolts and barrels together. Correct headspace is pretty much guaranteed that way. Headspace doesn't correct easily on this platform because of timing issues with the receiver pin and gas port.