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I can't believe I have a Glock. @StainTrain

She fought a bobcat, and choked it out. Fuk that. http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/06/15/georgia-woman-strangles-kills-rabid-bobcat-after-it-attacks-her-it-came-for-my-face.html

That is so badass, brother...

1. Housing alone. 2. Housing with steel insert. 3. Housing with Tungsten insert. 3 total possibilities.

For the record... I have a bunch of them. What caliber do you want to talk about, first?...

I pulled every single 77gr projectile made for .224 diameter. None of these get loaded longer than 2.250". 22 Caliber .224 Diameter Nosler 77 Grain HP Boat Tail Custom Competition OAL 0.980" 22 Caliber .224 Diameter Nosler 77 Grain Boat Tail HP With Cannelure Custom Competition OAL 0.980" 22 Caliber .224 Diameter Sierra 77 Grain Hollow Point Boat Tail Matchking OAL 0.994" 22 Caliber .224 Diameter Sierra 77 Grain HP Boat Tail Matchking Moly OAL 0.994" 22 Caliber .224 Diameter Sierra 77 Gr HP Boat Tail Matchking w/ Cannelure OAL 0.994" 22 Caliber .224 Diameter Sierra 77 Grain TMK Tipped Boat Tail Match King OAL 1.072" Berger does 3 in 77 Gr - Match BT, Match Target BT, and OTM. OAL 1.029" Lapua makes 7 x 77gr projos, in the lengths of 1.043" and 0.950" Barnes makes 4 x 70gr all copper solids that are 1.037", and they all get loaded to 2.250"... Here's what Sierra says about the 77TMK, the longest one of the bunch... https://sierrabulletsblog.com/2016/04/20/seating-concerns-with-sierra-tipped-matchking-tmk-bullets/

They're identical - same part, dimensions don't change. I have one in a 16" 5.56 precision gun, and one in a LR-308.

Tux, you see this gun right here? 12.5" 6.5 Grendel. At 845 yards, it was 10.6 mils of drop. This thing was center-massing all the impacts on full-size IPSC steel. That's 18" wide. So if it's center-massing an 18" wide plate of steel, is that pretty damn close to1MOA?... Yeah it is. I wasn't the only one to do it, either. Someone that had never shot a Grendel before hopped on it, and put a full mag right in the same places - right in the middle of the steel. Oh, and yes, there was wind. 5~8mph, from the right, full value... Running a Leupold 1.5~4 scope, at 4x, no less...

You're making excuses for wind. I'm telling you that if you're shooting those distances, you need to know how to read the wind. Once you've got the wind, and you adjust for it, there's absolutely zero reasons for you not to be able to get a gun that shoots under 1MOA at 100 yards, to shoot that same thing at other distances. That's called mechanical accuracy. The rest is up to you. If you had 77s that were loaded "right up to, and into the lands," then there's something wrong with the loading, and it wasn't out of an AR. It might have been a bolt gun. You don't load "up to, and into the lands." You need a jump. Determining that jump, per barrel, is where you find your accuracy potential. That is what I'm telling you... Good try, though.

Nah, I can't do anything with your 10-rd mags, bro.

I just finished my "build." I'm ready now. I had to "build" a 4473, and man was that rough... Right after that, I had to "build" the Glock Blue Label certification paperwork...

Don't have this on order anymore. It's safe at home, now.

You're showing what you don't know, right with that statement. There is zero reason you can't load the 77 SMK to magazine length, and have it reliable feed right out of the magazine, and run a semi-auto perfectly fine. So, I'd like to know what 77gr projectile you were messing with that couldn't be loaded to magazine length.

18"x30" IPSC steel torso - man-sized target. Groups are under or at 1MOA, from all 3 of those 5.56 rifles... However, you're gonna throw out .308 Win and 6.5 Creed numbers, and try to act like that's some kind of victory over a 5.56 gun? You gotta be out of your mind. You're not comparing apples and oranges. You're trying to compare apples to hammers. It's ridiculous. Did you or did you not say this:

That pistol grip on it turned it into an AOW...

Okay, I just got into the Berger stability calculator - there's nothing about COL in it. That "length" field they're wanting is the true projectile length - just the bullet. I've been playing with a Ketrel weather meter/ballistic calculator for a few months now, and that's an important factor that you have to build into your cartridge profile in the meter, in order for the Applied Ballistics software to spit out accurate drop data for distance. I plugged in my same Hornady 123gr ELD-M projectile for the 6.5 Grendel loads. First chart is G1 drag factor, second one is G7 drag factor. It didn't change by changing the drag factor - which it shouldn't, if those drag factors are correct.

That is correct, and a way to simplify it, mentally, is this: You are confined/restricted to a diameter. .308 Win is 0.308" in diameter. 6.5 Grendel is 0.264" in diameter. That can't change. When you go to lighter or heavier projectiles, what can change? The length, or the material construction. Most often, it's just the length. An exception to this is the Barnes TSX-family of bullets, as solid copper construction. So,for the most part, you go to a heavier projectile for longer distances, which by it's nature makes it a longer bullet - and you would want a tighter twist rate to stabilize that heavier projectile. The AR15 is the most common example. 1:12" twists, 1:9", 1:8", 1:7", etc... A 1:12" twist will be great for a light, 35gr varmint projectile. That twist rate will suck for a 75gr Hornady HPBT. And the opposite: don't try to run that 35gr varmint grenade through a 1:7" twist barrel... In the McGowan calculator above, there's nothing about COL in there - there's no Cartridge Overall Length. That's not a factor in the McGowan data, and isn't used. I briefly looked at the other one, and didn't see it in there, either, but I'll look again...

This is hilarious...

Both 18" guns are the Mk12 Mod 0 and the Mk12 Mod 1. The Mod 0 has a Nordic Components 1:8" twist stainless match barrel, .223 Wylde chamber, with rifle gas. Nordic doesn't even offer this barrel anymore, and that's a shame. The Mod 1 has a Ballistic Advantage Mk12 SPR barrel, 1:8" twist stainless match, .223 Wylde chamber, rifle gas. Both barrels are very serious shooters. Remarkable. The 20" gun runs Yankee Hill upper and lower, and barrel. It's the 1:7" twist, NATO chamber, heavy barrel, steel, rifle gas, and it is badass. It's just ridiculously accurate. It is one heavy gun, though. Damn, that thing is a pig. I've never refined the specific load for the 20", and just run the same load in all three. Lake City NATO brass, CCI 41 primers, Accurate 2520 powder at 25.1 grains, and Hornady 75gr BTHP Match projectiles. That load is a tack driver in those guns, and it keeps the 18" guns over 2750 fps. I want to experiment with Accurate 2495 some, and see how it does. My backup powder (and my original loadings for these guns) was same components above, with 24.2 grains of Varget. When Varget got scarce several years ago, I went to RL-15, and it was the exact same charge weight, 24.2 grains. Both great loads.

I didn't do that, Mikey - RECOIL did that, based on all the stupid things the fanbois were saying about the 19X...

Just so you know, all laughing aside... I have two 5.56 guns that will run a target at 850 yards all day long, just about with boring regularity. They just don't miss. I have one that will do the same thing at 950 yards... It's a beast, with Hornady 75gr HPBT Match projectiles...

Since I'm on a Disturbed kick - I've never seen this version before, but it's badass...

Don't know how many of you guys haven't seen Sicario - but it's a BADASS movie. Sicario 2 drops at the end of June...

Yeah. That shiit happened. https://www.offgridweb.com/gear/recoiltv-glock-19x-minus-the-x/