noyb Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Anyone have experience with forged 308 DPMS patter 80% lowers? I'd like one that is already anodized. I would also prefer one with safe/fire engravings but have only seen that on billet lowers so far. The forged ones are generally cheaper than the billet and I'm cheap so I'd prefer forged. The cheapest one I've found is the one from KE Arms but haven't been able to find any reviews on them. Anyone use them? Also, I know there isn't any standardization like there is with the little brother so what jig are you using with what lower? Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugger43 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) http://www.80percentarms.com/collections/lower-receivers/products/fde-billet-80-308-lower-receiverThis is what I used. Billet, anodized, good finish and quality. These guys do have some good prices on blemished ones, also. Plus, if you do screw up one of their lowers using their jig, they will sell you the second one half price. CS is good; you can reach them on the phone, and they are helpful. Yeah, I had to get the second one. However, I was able to fix the first one, so ended up with two very good ones. Mated up super with my upper, which was from Aero Precision.I used an 80percentarms jig. Their .308 jig is NOT universal. But it works very well, using a router to do the finish work. I was very happy with them. My son and I just went in together on a jig from Modulus, which is "universal", which we will use to do a number of AR-15's. Take your time; go slow, take little bites with the router, and you can come out with a super, professional looking lower. And it's a hell of a lot of fun.Lastly, don't think I'd be concerned about the forged vs billet thing. The biggest problem with 308 is the lack of reliable standards. Aero has a great reputation for quality, and the fact that their upper fit so well with my lower from 80%Arms speaks well for both companies, I think. Edited December 5, 2015 by slugger43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noyb Posted December 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 My reason for wanting a forged is because they can be had cheaper and I'm a cheapskate. I've found what looks to be the forged anodized KE Arms 308 80% lower for less then $90 but just can't find reviews, regardless of the number of searches I do online. I can find very few reviews of the company in general online and it's kind of been a 50/50 then. I have the easy jig for the ar-15 and like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 My reason for wanting a forged is because they can be had cheaper and I'm a cheapskate. I've found what looks to be the forged anodized KE Arms 308 80% lower for less then $90 but just can't find reviews, regardless of the number of searches I do online. I can find very few reviews of the company in general online and it's kind of been a 50/50 then. I have the easy jig for the ar-15 and like itfirst off welcome to the forum, feel free to post up in the intro section. i myself wouldn't order from a company no ones heard of with no reviews, but that's me. Also it's hard being cheap in this hobby, good deals can be found, but in my experience cheaper is seldomly better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noyb Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Thanks for to welcome. I agree with you, I'll pass on KE Arms lowers if I can't find any reviews. I find it hard to believe in the digital age that it's so difficult to find user reviews. People post pictures of what kind of sprinkles they had on their ice cream at lunch so surely they could post something that my be useful or that I would care about, lol. I'm cheap but this is one area I buy once and cry once. But if I could save a few bucks and still get a quality product, then I'd be all over it. Guess I'll have to part with a little extra cash and buy one from a know company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacLamb Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Im a Retired Toolmaker and finished this 80* Lower last Spring to have an AR in a larger bore for "Plinking". The Lower is a HellFire Armory 80* with Geiselle SSA FCG and a Tubb Spring. On top of this is the PSA 10(Yep, I worked through those "Issues" as well) with 16 Heavy Barrel with a Fortis Mfg. Muzzle Brake, a Midwest Ind. 15" Guard, 4x16x44 Leatherwood Glass(Our range is only 200 yards) and a Harris Bi-Pod. With lots of fine tuning It runs waaaay better than I imagined. Solid, so I'm glad I finished the 2nd one identical to this one. The only benefit I've found with these 80* Lowers verses "Complete" ones are the Billet Hellfire are Rock Solid and gave me incentive for the build. Safe Shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Twins? Nice work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacLamb Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Thanks Sketch!! I have 2 Sons and keep it in "Pairs" so there's no Bickering. Forgot to mention the Syrac Gen ll S.S. Adjustable Gas Blocks were last upgrades and have made things run much smoother for the 308s. Here's a few "Pairs" of Stainless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankh252 Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Im a Retired Toolmaker and finished this 80* Lower last Spring to have an AR in a larger bore for "Plinking". The Lower is a HellFire Armory 80* with Geiselle SSA FCG and a Tubb Spring. On top of this is the PSA 10(Yep, I worked through those "Issues" as well) with 16 Heavy Barrel with a Fortis Mfg. Muzzle Brake, a Midwest Ind. 15" Guard, 4x16x44 Leatherwood Glass(Our range is only 200 yards) and a Harris Bi-Pod. With lots of fine tuning It runs waaaay better than I imagined. Solid, so I'm glad I finished the 2nd one identical to this one. The only benefit I've found with these 80* Lowers verses "Complete" ones are the Billet Hellfire are Rock Solid and gave me incentive for the build. Safe Shooting.A beautiful build! I like the BUIS-45's on every build, a feature I like to have on mine too, Hat's off to you sir, you do nice work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankh252 Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 My reason for wanting a forged is because they can be had cheaper and I'm a cheapskate. I've found what looks to be the forged anodized KE Arms 308 80% lower for less then $90 but just can't find reviews, regardless of the number of searches I do online. I can find very few reviews of the company in general online and it's kind of been a 50/50 then. I have the easy jig for the ar-15 and like itI have the Juggernaut Tactical AR-15 & 308 jigs, and the Modulus Arms HD AR-15 jig. The Modulus, with it's steel rather than aluminum plates, is superior by far. It's also billed as being compatible with multiple lowers. You'd think the Modulus would be a lot more expensive but it was only $179 while the JT's are $140ea. Can't wait for Modulus to come out with the steel 308 model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Very nice job n those rifles brother .I likey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacLamb Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Thanks, I don't normally comment on forums let alone share photos of my low budget builds but jigs, fixtures and tooling have provided and I can certainly relate to all those frustrated with some of these 80* jigs that are out there. So Sorry if I've "HiJacked" the Thread and hope all those making "Chips" on their own, sneak up on all their finish cuts. Very Rewarding. Forgot to mention the 10s have Syrac Adjustable Gas Blocks to reduce any "Over Gassing" Issues. Safe Shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Hahaha you ain't the first thread jacker and it won't be the last.You'r going to fit right in.have fun bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankh252 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Are the final 80% lower milling depths the same for the AR308 and AR15? The specs I have heard are: Fire Control Pocket: 1.25" Rear Shelf: 0.63" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngrBob Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 12 hours ago, Frankh252 said: Are the final 80% lower milling depths the same for the AR308 and AR15? The specs I have heard are: Fire Control Pocket: 1.25" Rear Shelf: 0.63" The plan I obtained (for $8+) from the internet indicates the back shelf depth is 0.525" and the FCG pocket at 1.249." The difference is the back shelf depth but so long as it is below the takedown pin it should be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankh252 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 hour ago, EngrBob said: The plan I obtained (for $8+) from the internet indicates the back shelf depth is 0.525" and the FCG pocket at 1.249." The difference is the back shelf depth but so long as it is below the takedown pin it should be OK. Best to start shallow & test fit from there should be a safe plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngrBob Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 52 minutes ago, Frankh252 said: Best to start shallow & test fit from there should be a safe plan. I am doing exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolndie7 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Ive always done .630 on both platforms without any issues. This pic is a DPMS pattern. If you need any dimensions or have any questions feel free to shoot me a PM. Ive also got the "other" platforms hole locations if needed. Edited December 5, 2016 by Toolndie7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankh252 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Thanks for the great info, guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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