shepp Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 52 minutes ago, washguy said: Posted September 14, 2015 · Report post From X-caliber "I would be happy to get that back from you to check it. We do test our barrels before we do gas port sizes and make sure it works with carbine and rifle buffer systems and we do not give out the gas port sizes as those are valuable industry secrets so when people ask we do not answer the question of gas port size." "-It could be the barrel but I might be able to diagnose it better with all your stuff in it." I'm torn now, send it in or drill it out myself??????? I had to order a set of bits as nobody had them here in town. Thats some pure crapola right there lol You can doo it JT drill it brother... go big or go home Wash Sorry Cap...its an industry secret Wash And that's the biggest load of bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 best thing to do seems to be get stuff from people that work with you, not hold stuff from you. plenty of other people out there that want you to be informed and educated. customer service is important. I'm so tired of hearing crap answers from companies, if they don't give me straight answers to ALL of my questions, I find someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 13 hours ago, captain23steve said: They are hand lapped. check out the websight Apparently, not very well... Two in a row that are hand lapped, and pitted?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 10 minutes ago, 98Z5V said: Apparently, not very well... Two in a row that are hand lapped, and pitted?... It is remmington......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain23steve Posted October 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 31 minutes ago, 98Z5V said: Apparently, not very well... Two in a row that are hand lapped, and pitted?... I apologize, misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were talking about X-Caliber not being hand lapped. You were saying that the factory barrel was not hand lapped. Yes, you are absolutely correct, factory barrel is far from being hand lapped, or machined well for that matter. I really don't think it's worth trying to lap, Like I said, I have much older rifles, with barrels in far better shape. It would drive me crazy to keep it with me knowing the condition it is in. Again, apologize for the misunderstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beantown Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Doesn't DPMS make this rifle for Remington? I ask this as my LR-308 Oracle is a MOA tack driver for a 16" bull barrel. I have never scoped my barrel, but after break in, the lands and grooves look smooth as glass on mine. Where are you located captain23steve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain23steve Posted October 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 11 minutes ago, beantown said: Doesn't DPMS make this rifle for Remington? I ask this as my LR-308 Oracle is a MOA tack driver for a 16" bull barrel. I have never scoped my barrel, but after break in, the lands and grooves look smooth as glass on mine. Where are you located captain23steve? Both rifles came with a DPMS magazine, The company that bought Remington also bought, Marlin, DPMS, and a couple of other gun manufactures that I can't remember. So I would imagine DPMS has something to do with the R-25. The person I spoke with at Remington said that they manufacture the rifle, and DPMS doesn't have any involvement, but like I said, the rifle came with a DPMS magazine. Located in SC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beantown Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 47 minutes ago, captain23steve said: Both rifles came with a DPMS magazine, The company that bought Remington also bought, Marlin, DPMS, and a couple of other gun manufactures that I can't remember. So I would imagine DPMS has something to do with the R-25. The person I spoke with at Remington said that they manufacture the rifle, and DPMS doesn't have any involvement, but like I said, the rifle came with a DPMS magazine. Located in SC. Steve, Where in SC are you? I have an offer for you. I live in Monroe NC and work in Rock Hill SC. I'm more than willing to let you try my DPMS upper on your lower to see how tight it will group. It would sure let you know how well the DPMS 16" HBAR barrel will group rounds. Bring your bore scope and lets compared the finish in the bores side by side. I have a friend in Lancaster SC that lets me shoot in his back yard. We have a 55 yard range setup with railroad ties as a back stop and steel plate targets on it. We do have access to a 300 yard range, not far from his house, but we don't have the target stands finished yet. Let me know if your interested. It would be great to meet a fellow brother from the board. Between the two of us, let see if maybe we can save you some time, money and aggravation in the process. Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Freedom Group owns em Wash Number of Years In Business: 194 Years Number of Facilities: 14 Products Sold In Over 80 Countries Number of Employees: Over 3,000Largest Manufacturer of Commercial Firearms and Ammunition REMINGTONBUSHMASTERREMINGTON MILITARYREMINGTON LEMARLIN FIREARMSH&R 1871DAKOTA ARMSTAPCO DPMS / Panther ArmsPARKER GUNMAKERSBARNES BULLETSADVANCED ARMAMENTPARA USAREMINGTON PMPDMOUNTAIN KHAKIS REMINGTON 1816 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain23steve Posted October 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 16 minutes ago, beantown said: Steve, Where in SC are you? I have an offer for you. I live in Monroe NC and work in Rock Hill SC. I'm more than willing to let you try my DPMS upper on your lower to see how tight it will group. It would sure let you know how well the DPMS 16" HBAR barrel will group rounds. Bring your bore scope and lets compared the finish in the bores side by side. I have a friend in Lancaster SC that lets me shoot in his back yard. We have a 55 yard range setup with railroad ties as a back stop and steel plate targets on it. We do have access to a 300 yard range, not far from his house, but we don't have the target stands finished yet. Let me know if your interested. It would be great to meet a fellow brother from the board. Between the two of us, let see if maybe we can save you some time, money and aggravation in the process. Shane Thanks for the invite. I'M at the other end of the state. Sounds like a good time, but don't get up their very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 4 hours ago, captain23steve said: I apologize, misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were talking about X-Caliber not being hand lapped. You were saying that the factory barrel was not hand lapped. Yes, you are absolutely correct, factory barrel is far from being hand lapped, or machined well for that matter. I really don't think it's worth trying to lap, Like I said, I have much older rifles, with barrels in far better shape. It would drive me crazy to keep it with me knowing the condition it is in. Again, apologize for the misunderstanding. That's exactly why I recommended the Tubb Final Finish for you, before you spend money on a new barrel - when you really might not need to. Check into the Final Finish, read up on it, and see if you think it would help you. I think it would help you, if this is a barrel issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) I would be willing to bet that they never changed the Barrel , & that's why they both had Pits in the Bore . Tubb's final Finnish ammo might help & for the price , might be worth a try , but if you they are as bad as you say , maybe not . Can't hurt to try , for the price of the Tubbs ammo. Edited October 2, 2016 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain23steve Posted November 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Well, you guys were right on the money. Received my barrel the other day. Installed it, and had nothing but malfunctions(FTF, and stove pipe). Drilled the gas port to .093, and functions flawlessly. Thanks for the heads up. Have not had a chance to sight in yet, so we will find out the accuracy later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Cap....good for you .093 is the ticket! Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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