Matt.Cross Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 6 hours ago, DarkMagic said: Honestly I rather keep it all the same company so I have 0 issues. My question remains what is the better of the 5 companies I listed? DPMS,PSA,Anderson,Spikes, Armalite The top 3 of those would be Armalite, DPMS, and Spike's. Everything being from 1 manufacturer isn't a guarantee, it's just your best chance. Part of the appeal of this platform is learning what makes it tick via personal experience and diagnosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Father Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Wanted a AR platform 308 to go along with the M1A's in my inventory. I could get anything, but decided to go cheap. Got a PSA AR308. Have $770 in the rifle. Added a Daniels Defense stock for $66, just for the look. Magpul grip $35. Magpul flips ups front and rear $85. To see how accurate it can really shoot I got a discontinued Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 scope for $299. A set of Nikon 30mm rings for $40. Have 1500 rounds through it using just the iron/plastic sights with zero problems. Will check out the rifle with scope next weekend. If I really like the AR308 platform I can upgrade to a pricey rifle later. Having the 15" handguard really improves the iron sight use. Well anyway, whatever you get it will work just fine. Edited April 17, 2017 by The Father Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMagic Posted April 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 thank you Father, I'm glad to hear one good thing about PSA. Im going to call DPMS tomorrow and see what they have, if not I'm going with spikes unless you guys have any other advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMagic Posted April 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 well DPMS doesn't have any stripped lowers until fall so i think my options are leaning towards Spikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdoc Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 3 hours ago, DarkMagic said: well DPMS doesn't have any stripped lowers until fall so i think my options are leaning towards Spikes Spikes is showing a 6-8 week wait for their 308 receiver sets. I found my Spikes receiver set at a LGS and the price was much better than posted at Spikes website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdoc Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Here's mine ............... Edited April 17, 2017 by Jetdoc pics added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMagic Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Very nice jet. I think I'm going to do Dpms. Local gun store has the lower for 250. And dpms oracle upper online for 600 seems cheap and I can upgrade from there. Please advise if bad decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticReason Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) Don't know where you are, but my LGS has it complete for $50 less. I picked up a Gen 2 AP4 from them a few months ago for under $1200. Its ran flawlessly for me so far. Edited April 18, 2017 by ChaoticReason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMagic Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 New York lol I have to change the stock so the price is very close compared to msrp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMagic Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 I like the gen2 ap4 but they don't sell complete lowers yet so next build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNKEBIT Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 On 4/16/2017 at 1:10 PM, jtallen83 said: NIB may be slicker but it also can flake off where QPQ cannot. I have both types from Wilson and honestly the difference in cleaning is negligible. I bought one of his blems and can't find the blem, they are a steal for $155! This^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I bought one too and had 3 different people scope it out, can't find blem. Nice piece!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBREW Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) Dark take a look at my build. That is NYS complaint with the exception of the grip. I have that ugly Spur (and honestly think its dangerous because you have nothing to hold onto) and haven't left the house with it yet but I will switch that part out when it's range time. What are you planning on using for a barrel? You can't have any holes at the end. Edited April 18, 2017 by BIGBREW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMagic Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Post pic and yes I know that's why I want it pinned and welded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBREW Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) Nothing with holes on the end even if it is pinned and welded. You can have a thread protector unless the magazine is not detachable with something like a bullet button but that needs to be pinned also. Your better off going the route I did. Bull barrel, fixed stock and use that stupid spur and you will be legit. Edited April 18, 2017 by BIGBREW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMagic Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Crazy how the gun stores tell you different things, I don't think any of them know the actual truth. Funny how you can be a law abiding citizen and be scrutinized by your AR configure. Meanwhile you can be a felon and go on the streets of east New York and pick up a glock for pennies. Cuomo's head is in his ass. Who wants to hear a noise 3:00 AM see a perp with a gun, go to grab your AR (that can't have a PG or HG just a dumb spur) and the spur breaks. Fucking retarded. Welcome to NY. Will be out of here sooner then soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Father Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 For anybody that cares. PSA AR 308/7.62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Seems like I've seen this before........ 6 minutes ago, The Father said: For anybody that cares. PSA AR 308/7.62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Father Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) I am trying a subliminal message to convert all readers to PSA. Just bought a lot of stock in it today. Edited April 19, 2017 by The Father Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticReason Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 ^^^ Nice! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBREW Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 3 hours ago, DarkMagic said: Crazy how the gun stores tell you different things, I don't think any of them know the actual truth. Funny how you can be a law abiding citizen and be scrutinized by your AR configure. Meanwhile you can be a felon and go on the streets of east New York and pick up a glock for pennies. Cuomo's head is in his ass. Who wants to hear a noise 3:00 AM see a perp with a gun, go to grab your AR (that can't have a PG or HG just a dumb spur) and the spur breaks. Fucking retarded. Welcome to NY. Will be out of here sooner then soon You won't get a clear answer and you don't know who will enforce it. Many won't. But there is always that one. That info came straight from a Trooper. If your just range shooting build it the way you want, just make sure to separate the upper from lower while your traveling then it's just "parts" and put it in a locked gun case. They need a warrant to search your car. I have many friends in law enforcement and I was myself at one time, I don't like having to look at things that way but that law is stupid. I always cooperate with any police officer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMagic Posted April 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, BIGBREW said: You won't get a clear answer and you don't know who will enforce it. Many won't. But there is always that one. That info came straight from a Trooper. If your just range shooting build it the way you want, just make sure to separate the upper from lower while your traveling then it's just "parts" and put it in a locked gun case. They need a warrant to search your car. I have many friends in law enforcement and I was myself at one time, I don't like having to look at things that way but that law is stupid. I always cooperate with any police officer. Well if I want it just for home defense does it really matter ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMagic Posted April 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 26 minutes ago, The Father said: I am trying a subliminal message to convert all readers to PSA. Just bought a lot of stock in it today. I heard psa guns jam a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, DarkMagic said: I heard psa guns jam a lot You gotta be able to get them to fire before you can get them to jam.... Just sayin'..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMagic Posted April 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 33 minutes ago, Matt.Cross said: You gotta be able to get them to fire before you can get them to jam.... Just sayin'..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 hours ago, The Father said: I am trying a subliminal message to convert all readers to PSA. Just bought a lot of stock in it today. Well, your subliminal message might not work when you mount your scope mounts backwards. And, don't bridge the rail. You might want to fix that before you shoot for groups on Sunday. I'm just sayin... Fuckin Twilight Zone in here tonight, WTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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