SpairParts Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Im wanting to change my stock out and after doing a bunch of reading here its not as straight forward as i thought and sense my gun functions fine i almost hate to mess with it. I do have a adjustable gas block on it also. Looks like i will need a Armalite mid length gas tube. Buffer tube,spring, weight has me all confused though. Here are my current parts. Can i use any or do i need to replace them all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) what are you wanting to iinstall? what make / model? what do you have for a stalk? fixed or adjustable.. Edited December 17, 2018 by sketch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, SpairParts said: = Shooting suppressed? If your early in the round count use a little more lube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpairParts Posted December 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Probably 300ish rounds when i took that pic. Fkn old. Forgot to tell ya what i want to put on. Either a A2 style or a Magpull stock. Like them both just need to decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) You have a carbine receiver extension there, in that pic, at 7 5/8" internal depth. That's a carbine buffer, too. 3.8oz tells me it's H1-weighted. Get the length on it, but it looks like 3.250" regular AR15 H1 buffer. Your gas tube isn't doing you any justice, that's for certain. Switching it out for the longer one would help you. Edited December 18, 2018 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 23 minutes ago, 98Z5V said: You have a carbine receiver extension there, in that pic, at 7 5/8" internal depth. That's a carbine buffer, too. 3.8oz tells me it's H1-weighted. Get the length on it, but it looks like 3.250" regular AR15 H1 buffer. Your gas tube isn't doing you any justice, that's for certain. Switching it out for the longer one would help you. if he buys the rifle stalk as a kit.. it should work? but might need a longer gas tube as its a tad short . op you can build around your spare parts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, sketch said: if he buys the rifle stalk as a kit.. it should work? Only if he buys it for a 308AR, and not an AR15. I'd still put it together from pieces, so you know they didn't jack the spring up - UNLESS you buy it from Armalite or straight from DPMS. ^^^ Had to humor SS there, and throw that "DPMS perfection" to him. Edited December 18, 2018 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 roger for .308 is what i gather from the pa10 question thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Hardly any vendors jack up the 5.200" 308 rifle buffer. It's pretty safe to get that anywhere. Have to have a rifle length receiver extension, and hardly anyone jacks that up either. For a spring, I'd personally go with the Armalite EA1095 spring, and be done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpairParts Posted December 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Im gonna go with the Magpull stock. So i need a rifle length tube, a 5.200 308 rifle buffer and a Armalite spring and a Armalite mid length gas tube. Sound about right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, SpairParts said: Im gonna go with the Magpull stock. So i need a rifle length tube, a 5.200 308 rifle buffer and a Armalite spring and a Armalite mid length gas tube. Sound about right? Before you jump to that - Armalite doesn't make a midlength gas tube for 308s, and you never gave barrel specifics. You 16" Carbine gas here, or 18" Midlength gas?... Gotta know what you have right now... If you're running AR15 midlength gas, then you need the "Armalite AR-10 Carbine Gas Tube" to solve that issue. .308AR rifle buffer (5.200" long and 5.4oz), Any old AR15 Rifle Receiver Extension, and Armalite EA1095 recoil spring. That's gonna work in any MagPul Rifle Buttstock. MagPul includes the vented buttstock screw to work with those parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpairParts Posted December 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 Barrel is 18in 1/10 twist. well close as i can measure with out tearing apart the gun the gas tube measures 11 5/8 so i guess Carbine length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 49 minutes ago, SpairParts said: Barrel is 18in 1/10 twist. well close as i can measure with out tearing apart the gun the gas tube measures 11 5/8 so i guess Carbine length. The Armalite AR-10 Carbine Gas Tube (Armalite Part # 10007005) measures a true 12 1/16". That's what you need. I was just pointing out the terminology difference between these platforms. You ask a vendor for an Armalite AR-10 midlength gas tube, and you're either getting a gas tube for an AR15 from them, which will be the same exact thing you have now, or you have a SMART vendor that will send you what you need, not what you asked for... It's OOS at Armalite right now, per the website, but you need to call them on the phone to get accurate inventory. However, it IS in stock at DSG Arms right now, as I type this... https://dsgarms.com/arm10007005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpairParts Posted December 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 ORDERED! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, SpairParts said: ORDERED! Thanks Good job, man - you will NOT be a victim of Lesson 65b. For those that don't know that particular lesson... Lesson 65b - "You snooze, you lose." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 9:11 PM, 98Z5V said: Only if he buys it for a 308AR, and not an AR15. I'd still put it together from pieces, so you know they didn't jack the spring up - UNLESS you buy it from Armalite or straight from DPMS. ^^^ Had to humor SS there, and throw that "DPMS perfection" to him. Gee , thanks , bro !? I count 39 Coils on his present Buffer Spring , Whats the length ? Whats the Coil count/length on an AR 10 Spring 98 ? Carbine length 308AR Gas systems seem to work ok with that much Gas Tube protrusion , but changing it will not hurt , as long as it's not too long. I really liked the Magpul Rife Stock , I want to change my 20" HB Build to one , at some point . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 7 hours ago, survivalshop said: Gee , thanks , bro !? I count 39 Coils on his present Buffer Spring , Whats the length ? Whats the Coil count/length on an AR 10 Spring 98 ? 34 coils and 13.75" relaxed. 0.072" wire diameter, and it compresses to 2.448" before coil bind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 hours ago, 98Z5V said: 34 coils and 13.75" relaxed. 0.072" wire diameter, and it compresses to 2.448" before coil bind... So this Buffer Spring is probably for an AR 15 Carbine ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 3 hours ago, survivalshop said: So this Buffer Spring is probably for an AR 15 Carbine ! I highly doubt it. The AR15 Carbine spring should be 39 coils, 11.25" relaxed length, 0.072" wire diameter, and compress length of 2.808". The Armalite EA1095 spring ain't no AR15 Carbine spring, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) I was referring to the one posted by the Op, it has 39 coils. Unsure what the length of it is Or am I reading Slash's table incorrectly ? Edited December 20, 2018 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 14 hours ago, survivalshop said: I was referring to the one posted by the Op, it has 39 coils. Hell, I thought you were telling me that the data I posted on the EA1095 was probably an AR15 spring... I misread that, but you quoted me that way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, 98Z5V said: Hell, I thought you were telling me that the data I posted on the EA1095 was probably an AR15 spring... I misread that, but you quoted me that way... Yes , I should have made my self clearer , but I think in your old age your getting hard of hearing ? But it looks to me he has a AR 15 Carbine Spring , AR 15 Buffer " H " Buffer & a AR 10 Receiver Extension & its seems like its working , more confusion from PSA. He is going to a Rifle system , so as long as he gets the correct Components , he should be good to go , Edited December 21, 2018 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpairParts Posted December 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Ordered this https://www.luth-ar.com/product/buffer-tube-spring-assembly-kit-308/ Found it for $38 on sale at Primary arms and the Stock was also on sale for 35ish bucks. Spring is probably wrong but damn i cant find the Armalite spring in stock that 98Z posted or one with the proper spec he listed either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, SpairParts said: Spring is probably wrong but damn i cant find the Armalite spring in stock that 98Z posted or one with the proper spec he listed either. It's in stock at DSG Arms, brother, right now, as I type this... 8 bucks... https://dsgarms.com/armea1095 Also, FWIW, Randy Luth makes solid products, and Primary Arms is a very, very good vendor. Hell, I'd say they are a great vendor. You will be okay. Measure the buffer when you get it, and make sure it's 5.200"long, and not 5.900" long - you're good. Edited December 22, 2018 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 8 hours ago, survivalshop said: but I think in your old age your getting hard of hearing ? Yep, I concur... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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