carverelli Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 I've finished my 6.5 creedmoor build on a matched aero precision receiver set. Heavy kreiger 22" matte stainless barrel. The barrel came threaded so now i'm looking for a muzzle break compensator with .875 diameter. Preferably same finish and diameter. ive looked in brownells and aero precision. most of them are .750. can you fellas point me in the right direction. the muzzle break and a bolt disassembly tool to remove the ejector so I can check headspace with my go-no go gauges and I can start breaking in the barrel and making handloads for it.
98Z5V Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 Call Badger Ordnance, and see if they have something for you. The issue you're going to run into will probably be threading. Most .875" diameter brakes are for 3/4" x 24 threading, not the 5/8" x 24 that you need. You try the VG6 Gamma 6.5 brake?
carverelli Posted January 7, 2019 Author Report Posted January 7, 2019 No, I haven't. there isn't any info on the diameter where it meets the unthreaded part of my barrel. It 'looks' small from the picture. I'd prefer a break that isn't so hard on the ears as I don't normally hunt with ear protection. At the range, yes
98Z5V Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) The very definition of a brake - it's gonna be loud. You might want to look into a compensator instead. Or, and AAC Brakeout with the AAC Blastout mounted over it - that combination will redirect the concussion away from you, as the shooter, and still give you the benefit of the brake. I'm running a VG6 Gamma brake on a 6.5 Grendel, with the VG6 CAGE Device mounted to the brake. It gives me the benefit of a brake, but the CAGE device is a "diffuser" of sorts, that disrupts that side blast from the brake. I still wouldn't shoot it with no earpro, though. Edited January 7, 2019 by 98Z5V
98Z5V Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 This is what I put on the Grendel, and it would work on your 6.5 CM gun:
rcnut Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 check out Huber Concepts, John makes great breaks along with some outstanding triggers especially if your looking to up grade older military bolt guns, and Rem.700 in sniper platforms.
Merle Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 You could do a blended/seamless brake but that would require a gunsmith or someone with some lathe skills. Harrel's Precision makes 4 port brake that is already .875" diameter and threaded 5/8-24. But are you sure .875" is the diameter of the muzzle? Usually if a barrel has a gas block seat of .875" the diameter forward of the seat steps down a few thousands smaller all the way to the muzzle. The same can be said for barrels with gas block seats of .750" and .936" as well.
Merle Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 I'm going with this brake for my next project. It was lass than $100 after the discount. https://www.armorally.com/shop/vg6-lambda-prs65/
carverelli Posted January 7, 2019 Author Report Posted January 7, 2019 35 minutes ago, Merle said: You could do a blended/seamless brake but that would require a gunsmith or someone with some lathe skills. Harrel's Precision makes 4 port brake that is already .875" diameter and threaded 5/8-24. But are you sure .875" is the diameter of the muzzle? Usually if a barrel has a gas block seat of .875" the diameter forward of the seat steps down a few thousands smaller all the way to the muzzle. The same can be said for barrels with gas block seats of .750" and .936" as well. Yes the gas blocks. 936 and threaded muzzle is .875. Got the barrel from fulton armory already with the chamber cut in
carverelli Posted January 7, 2019 Author Report Posted January 7, 2019 14 hours ago, 98Z5V said: This is what I put on the Grendel, and it would work on your 6.5 CM gun: It works good even though it's made for the 300 blackout? How does the sound compare to shooting without a muzzle break? From your description it's exactly what I'm looking for. I'm already over $2500 with my build ....what's another 200. Right?
Armed Eye Doc Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 6 hours ago, carverelli said: what's another 200. Right? Ill save you enough to buy some ammo. https://www.armorally.com/shop/vg6-cage-muzzle-device-combo/ I know 98Z5V has that combo on his 6.5 Grendel. I shot it in the fall and it shoots great. I have that combo in the mail for my Grendel build.
98Z5V Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, carverelli said: It works good even though it's made for the 300 blackout? How does the sound compare to shooting without a muzzle break? From your description it's exactly what I'm looking for. I'm already over $2500 with my build ....what's another 200. Right? It's 300BLK because it's a .30 cal device with 5/8 x 24 threads - that is the same threading we have on the 6.5 guns - mine are .260 Remington and 6.5 Grendel. The device works great - how is it compare to no muzzle device on there? I have no idea- I haven't shot it with no muzzle device. Worrying about the sound is not a reason to get a brake, but the way you've been describing things in this thread makes me wonder if what you really want is a brake, at all. Only you can answer that one. Many, many times, using a brake on the end of your barrel makes it seem LOUDER to you, as the shooter. That combo above doesn't cancel each other out, but it's pretty easy to shoot. With just the brake, it felt louder, and the CAGE device does do a little bit for that, in terms of felt or perceived concussion. That 6.5 Grendel that it's on barely wiggles the crosshairs in the scope, when you fire. The VG6 6.5 Gamma Brake is what's on my .260 Rem. It's 0.860" O.D. It's a 3-chamber brake, so that CAGE device would only cover the first two chambers on it - i.e., it mounts to it, but it's not made for it. The CAGE is made specifically for the 2-chamber brakes. Edited January 8, 2019 by 98Z5V
carverelli Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Posted January 8, 2019 I see. Honestly, I was a bit surprised when the barrel came threaded. Only rifle I shoot with a break is Win model 70 300 WM and a boss. Btw...I really appreciate the time you took to help me out.guys like make these boards worthwhile. Only problem with my build so far its gonna be a truck gun or target gun because its HEAVY I'm already thinking about a ultralight 6mm creedmoor
Magwa Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 7 hours ago, carverelli said: I see. Honestly, I was a bit surprised when the barrel came threaded. Only rifle I shoot with a break is Win model 70 300 WM and a boss. Btw...I really appreciate the time you took to help me out.guys like make these boards worthwhile. Only problem with my build so far its gonna be a truck gun or target gun because its HEAVY I'm already thinking about a ultralight 6mm creedmoor Now you are thinking I can tell you from first hand experience that every ounce you can shave off DO IT! I have been packing one of these for over 5 years now in elk country and every ounce helps I have been looking for another caliber to build and I think it will be 6.5 PRC and I am going to start with a DPMS gen 2 they are the lightest and I am going to shave off every grain I can.... BTW I hunt with a suppressor you should look into it it will solve all of your muzzle brake issues and it is a joy to shoot....
carverelli Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Posted January 8, 2019 Without the scope AND bipod I'm just under 12 lbs. It wasn't until I started connecting all the pieces did I realize weight will be an issue. On the bright side, more weight, less recoil?
carverelli Posted January 9, 2019 Author Report Posted January 9, 2019 Just ordered the gamma 300blackout and the CAGE. Should be here by Saturday but I'll most likely be working...ugh!
Magwa Posted January 9, 2019 Report Posted January 9, 2019 with scope loaded mag and bipod you are talking 15 + lbs that barrel is your biggest negative you do not need more than 16 inches to hunt and shoot to 500 yards which I feel is about as far as a ethical shot should be no matter how good you are ....get a pencil barrel for hunting hell you will not fire more than 3 or 4 rds anyway....get a micro gas block a good 3 to 9 scope or 2 to 7 a 5 rd mag and I carry my suppressor on my belt and add it as needed when hunting shoot I68 Barnes TTSX and you can kill anything in North America and the gun will weigh about 8 and 1/2 Pic 1 358 yards Pic 2 40 yards pic 3 376 yards pic 4 right at 400 yards This Bitch gets it done nothing fancy but she is accurate and reliable
carverelli Posted January 9, 2019 Author Report Posted January 9, 2019 Itll be fun to shoot and I'm guess in sub moa ro 1/2 mile. Yes itll be a heavy bitch. I don't really hunt much any more. I' m already researching parts for another AR build in 6mm creedmoor. I have a Bolt gun in 6mmx 284 winchester but it's a barrel burner and weighs in @ 20 lbs
98Z5V Posted January 9, 2019 Report Posted January 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, carverelli said: sub moa to 1/2 mile. It should be. It will perform for you.
Magwa Posted January 9, 2019 Report Posted January 9, 2019 Oh my bad I somehow thought you were trying to build a hunting gun, lol the world is your oyster if you do not have to pack it up and down mountains....that gun should really be a accurate and fun to shoot
Phantom30 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Posted January 9, 2019 JP enterprises Recoil Eliminator comes with both your fit and finish, ugly but effective.
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