Cliff R Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Decades ago when Red Dot type optics first became available I installed one on my 870 slug gun for deer hunting. I actually think it's from Tasco but haven't looked at it in decades, it just flat works and has only needed a couple of battery replacements in all these years. It is absolutely the BEST set-up you could want allowing super quick acquisition and easy to keep on them for running shots compared to iron sights or even a low powered or 1X scope. I've piled up more deer on drives that blazed past me than I can count. Matter of fact it's rare if I miss one under about 50 yards, even when they are moving quickly. Trying to do the same thing with iron sights, especially in heavy cover is difficult if not next to impossible.........Cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 I prefer the cost and training aspect of irons. new shooters need to know basic sight picks. rifle or pistol.. then when they move on, we add dot options so they aren't dependent on dots and laser pointers at first, scopes are another animal and more training. 🍻👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 On 7/14/2019 at 12:24 AM, Exhail said: In my research, I have come to the conclusion that iron sights really are the best. Why? Every Marine must qualify at 500 yards with iron sights, (Marines add your opinion) On 7/14/2019 at 5:42 PM, andrewtac said: Marines can qual with ACOGs now, been that way for years. I don't think the option exist for initial qual, not sure. I have two sons who have been in the Marines. The older one from 1995 to 1999 and he says they had to qual with iron sights. The younger one was in from 2012 to 2016 and he says nobody qualed with iron sights, everything was done with ACOGs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewtac Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 Last time I qualified they gave the option, that was probably around 2012. I laughed at the folks that went with irons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albroswift Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Counting antler points on a critter a few hundred yards out is kinda tough with a peep sight, just saying... 🦌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) They aren't so great in low light situations either. Decades ago I had the buck of a lifetime get by me during the muzzle loading season. It was right at first light and I just couldn't see chit thru the peep sight as he worked his way across the clear cut I was watching. He'd have been easy pick-ins with a low powered scope, but I just couldn't pick him up in the peep sight I had on my muzzle loader at that time. The older you get the more you learn to appreciate modern technology. I've outfitted most of my hunting rifles with scopes, but I use and prefer low powered and small/compact models. This cuts down on size, weight, and makes up close shots at moving game much easier due to the wider field of view and less magnification. Jump up a big bull Elk off a thick mountain top and try to get on him with your high powered long range scope when he's moving thick thru heavy cover. Then do the same thing with a 1-4x Leupold set on 1X. You may not find the mark either way, but for sure you'll be able to pick him up and stay on him with the 1X scope as he makes his escape........Cliff Edited July 22, 2019 by Cliff R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exhail Posted July 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Well I picked up these fixed sights from Ozark for $35. Apparently they used to have quality control issues, but I've gotten 2 sets now and am happy with the fit and finish. I noticed other brands were $130 just for the rear. I just wanted something simple for my rifle most of the time. I also did but a red dot I got on sale from PSA and will be in today. So I'll have 4 options now. A scope, offset sights, iron sights, and a red dot. All for about $450. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Nice. Keep us posted on what works out best for you. It’s nice to have options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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