kristian55 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 THOR TR-10- question?http://www.thorrifles.com/products?page=shop.browse&category_id=8Hi.I am interested by information on a rifle THOR TR-10.Interesting opinion, recommendation, wish of proprietors.Positive and negative reviews with the detailed description welcomed.Kristian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Sorry never heard of this brand/model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhouse Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Ditto. Their product description is a little lacking. Interesting though, let us know if you find out more technical details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgun Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 The DD lite rail and Magpul PRS stock are good quality components, but how well the gun shoots will be largely determined by the quality of the barrel, BCG and how carefully they assemble them. Why don't you contact them and find out what barrels they use along with the bolt carrier group. You should also make sure that the rifle is of the configuration you prefer, either, Armalite pattern, or DPMS/ KAC. If it's not available in the pattern you want it won't matter how well it's made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 To me it looks like they used expensive name brand furniture to spice up some run of the mill mil-spec stuff. The forged receiver looks to be an Armalite clone. It even requires the funny grip wedge. The barrel appears to be a hbar with a standard vortex type flash hider. Judging from the lack of flare, I'm guessing this has a mil trigger too. I'm a little set off by the fact they dont put up a price?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristian55 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Hi.THOR TR-10- it is "daughter" of company Knesek Guns, Inc. http://www.knesekguns.com/I find out now the situation of,no know one, that on all of models THOR gives a lifelong guarantee.Kristian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristian55 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 To me it looks like they used expensive name brand furniture to spice up some run of the mill mil-spec stuff. The forged receiver looks to be an Armalite clone. It even requires the funny grip wedge. The barrel appears to be a hbar with a standard vortex type flash hider. Judging from the lack of flare, I'm guessing this has a mil trigger too. I'm a little set off by the fact they dont put up a price??OK friends.It is an answer of representative of firm THOR:"Yes, the THOR products come with a lifetime warranty. And, to be quite honest, there is absolutely no comparison between it and the Armalite or DPMS."THOR TR-10 Rifle 20" with Rail System-$2400.308 WIN1:10 TwistMagpul PRS StockMagpul MOE GripDaniel Defense 12" 7.62 Lite Rail20rd MagazineTroy Front and Rear Flip SightsTHOR TR-10 Rifle 16" with Rail System-$2250.308 WIN1:10 TwistMagpul PRS StockMagpul MOE GripDaniel Defense 12" 7.62 Lite Rail20rd MagazineTroy Front and Rear Flip SightsMagpul MOE GripDaniel Defense 12" 7.62 Lite Rail20rd MagazineTroy Front and Rear Flip SightsLowest price on a modelTHOR TR-10 Carbine 16"-$1850.308 WIN1:10 TwistMagpul PRS StockMagpul MOE GripDaniel Defense 12" 7.62 Lite Rail20rd MagazineTroy Front and Rear Flip Sights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgun Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 As previously stated, it may or may not, be a high quality rifle. The information provided by the company offers little further information than was provided by the first link you posted. It states that it's a 1 in 10 twist barrel, but doesn't say whether the barrel is a stainless or chromolly barrel or if the barrel is chome plated, or what brand blank is used. The receiver appears to be an Armalite pattern forged receiver, but that doesn't guarantee what magazines it's designed for. If you want to use the Magpul mags you need to find out if it will accommodate them. Maybe you can find a dealer that has one in stock locally and go there to examine it for yourself. $2400 is a lot of money to spend on a gun that you've never actually examined, or read any reviews on. If the company is making a good product they should be anxious to get them into the hands of testers in order to get some positive publicity. Maybe they can direct you to some third party evaluations/reviews on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Yeah, everything Jgun said...No comparison to dpms and Armalite?? Is that a good thing, or a bad thing?Who makes the barrel blanks? What contour is the barrel? What is the gas length? Fluted? Dimpled? Chrome? Stainless?What hider/comp/brake are you using?What trigger is being used?Who made the BCG? Chrome? CWS? Fail Zero?What kind of buffer system is being used? Heavy buffer? Flat spring? Hydraulic? Are any of the features ambidextrous? Bad A.S.S.?What kind of gas block is used? Low profile? Adjustable? Piston system?Which charging handle comes with the rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 i think in short, the guys are just trying to tell you be careful with your decision. there seems to be some unknowns, and anyone can claim things their product can do. no one is dissuading you from buying but just be prepared to be a test mule. oh, and enjoy the prs stock. i find it funny that is the only stock option, even on the carbine. if it's what you want, then do it. i was the first here to buy a pws mk 200 series rifle, and faced several unknowns, and i am happy and it's in the same price range. we just like to throw caution to the wind with unknown quantities. good luck and we expect updates and unbiased reports because this is the way we get the info out. <thumbsup> <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Here's the best I can make if this.Knesek Guns is an international importer/exporter of firearms. Thor Global Defense Group is a training company. Knesek Guns (the gun brokers) partnered with Thor GDG for their training. Hmmm.As a training company, Thor is definitely not a weapons manufacturer, nor a gunsmith. I might be wrong, but...The Thor guns would obviously be a reciprocal of that gun import/export ~ training partnership, and the Thor guns are built from parts (or are actual guns) that Knesek Guns sells.Somebody tell me if that wouldn't make sense. Knesek Guns: http://www.gun-export.com/Thor GDG: http://www.thorgdg.com/Either way, I don't see that particular firearm as something to get excited about. Or any of the Thor firearms, for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Kristian, where are you from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Kristian, where are you from?Ha took the words right out of my mouth ;D Kristian I find this odd, It appears your are possibly in the Ukraine. There's all kinds of rules governing the export of weapons. Is this something you have available to you? Are you an importer/exporter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgun Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I have relatives in Lviv Ukraine. Last time I was there I was led to understand that there were many restrictions to firearms ownership. I was also told that handguns were not available to the general public. Of course if your connected everything is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgun Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Hey Edgecrusher, I noticed your post on being the first here to go with a PWS product. I'll give you that, but as far as I'm concerned PWS is an established company with a good rep. Now I may just be the last one to hear about Thor, but unless that's the case, I don't know if we're camparing apples to apples here. I think I'd be quicker to take a chance, sight unseen, on a PWS than I would on the Thor. I, personally, had great expectations for Kaiser and now I own an orphan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Now I may just be the last one to hear about Thor, but unless that's the case, I don't know if we're camparing apples to apples here. I'm thinking it's more like we're comparing apples to hammers, here. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristian55 Posted September 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I have relatives in Lviv Ukraine. Last time I was there I was led to understand that there were many restrictions to firearms ownership. I was also told that handguns were not available to the general public. Of course if your connected everything is available.Hi.Now there indeed are some problems with an import on Ukraine from the USA of ITAR.But all of problems decide . Sometimes it is time and sometimes it is creation of firms for the export of weapon.My first desire it is acquisition of rifle Kel-Tec 7.62 NATO-this problem decides time.Question of purchase of rifle on a base AR10/25- it is a question of technology of delivery on Ukraine.That now is on Ukraine from rifles on a base AR10/25- assembling of rifles a firm ZBROYAR from stuff RRA .223Rem.-only.I build the rifles and it one of my new projects on a base AR10/25.SGW bull-pup SKS-45 http://forum.ipsc.org.ua/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5326CBRPC bull-pup SKS-45 http://forum.ipsc.org.ua/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3631&start=175XLR Rem.700 .308Win. http://forum.ipsc.org.ua/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5266Hardness me to say as it will develop in the future - time will rotin. I did not yet pass all of way . Information ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Apples to hammers!!! <laughs> <lmao>@Jgun,Kaiser was way ahead of the curve for a small company. They didnt disappear because of poor quality. They made some bad business choices with JD Machine. I read somewhere that they were selling their design to a larger company. I wish I had the foresight to buy their left side charging handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I wanted the kr7, it was nice, but I was too late also. Back on topic, you previously purchased kits, not whole weapons kristian. I don't think you'll legally be able to do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristian55 Posted September 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I wanted the kr7, it was nice, but I was too late also. Back on topic, you previously purchased kits, not whole weapons kristian. I don't think you'll legally be able to do thatI search the methods of purchase and postal delivery on Ukraine of rifle on a base AR10/25.I am sure - I will decide this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgun Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I think I'm staying on topic with this. When comparing companies in my other post, I was just trying to bring up the point that, unlike PWS which isn't likely to close up shop any time soon, the thor, even if it turns out to be a high quality product, could end up being a gun without factory support if the company were to close. I may be 100% wrong here because I don't know anything about the company. Just saying that a lifetime guarantee isn't worth much if the company no longer exists. I brought this up thinking that the original poster should also take that possibility into consideration when going with a smaller, less well known company, and would be well advised to take a look at the company as well as the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Good point - in this situation, I think the OP is going to have to take whatever he can get. Find a company that is either international, or skirts around the ITAR in whatever manner they try to do (or both) - that would have to be number one. The follow-on is: what to they carry for inventory? I have a hunch that's why this topic exists - this Thor rifle is the inventory available, under these circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 additionally long as the receivers are of high quality everything else is easily replaceable or I would think so even beyond the US.I say whatever he has to do to get in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Maybe Guy Savage from Sabre Defense can help kristian out? I hear he has some experience in this field. What? Too early for arms trafficing jokes? ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgun Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I'm guessing that a 7.62 AR would be a pretty rare gun to own in Ukraine. I bet you'd be the center of attention if you ever pulled one out at the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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