98Z5V Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 23 hours ago, sketch said: I count my steps until i can walk upright. You might be part aborigine, so that doesn't count, really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 You can shoot my 45-70 when you come out here for the Fall Shoot. As much as you want. I've been reloading and hunting with a Marlin 45/70 since for at least 40 years. I own two of them, straight stock, no recoil pad, square lever, no safety. My brother and nephew also have them as they are now legal here in Ohio for deer. I load a 300 grain bullet backed by a full charge of Reloader 7. It goes across the chrony at 2400fps and good to at least 300 yards without worrying much about holdover. When we sight them in the first thing you do is to take off your hat and glasses.......because they are going to be on the ground after you touch off the first round anyhow!.....LOL..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac82 Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 Y'all are a bunch of ladies. 45-70 ain't that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Mac82 said: Y'all are a bunch of ladies. 45-70 ain't that bad. He who's squaw carries his nuts around in a small deer skin pouch shall NOT talketh smack..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac82 Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 Liar, she ain't carrying my nuts......... The surgery isn't until the 30th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 😂🤣😃 better you than me..... Edited June 18, 2021 by Lonewolf McQuade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 13 hours ago, Mac82 said: Y'all are a bunch of ladies. 45-70 ain't that bad. You're more than welcome to shoot mine, too, Mac! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunuckgaucho Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 I love mine(Henry 45-70) it's my fav gun for bear country but certainly not my first choice for an afternoon of plinking tin cans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted June 18, 2021 Report Share Posted June 18, 2021 "Y'all are a bunch of ladies. 45-70 ain't that bad." I used to shoot with a Lieutenant that I worked with, we hit the range nearly every weekend testing out our hand loads. One day handed me his Ruger #1 in 45/70 with some loads he worked up using 500 grain cast bullets and a full charge of Reloader 7. That was in the late 1980's and my teeth are still loose from touching off one round with that little rifle! I got really stupid a few years ago checking my Marlin 45/70 right before deer season and used one of those rifle rests that support the stock and keep it off your shoulder. My nephew had just bought it and I'm getting old enough that I'd had enough of getting thumped by the 45/70 at the range. Well talk about a DUMB idea. I touched off a round and it split the stock in half and broke the butt-plate into two pieces! It took me nearly a year to find another straight walnut stock and matching butt plate for that rifle. You'd think at almost 60 years old I'd have been a little smarter than that.....DUH! Anyhow, no more rifle rests I'll take the beating instead. I will say that in a hunting situation you never notice any of that and I've killed everything with my 45/70 from ground hogs to Elk. Nothing I've ever shot with it takes another step!.........Cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted June 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 14 hours ago, Cliff R said: "Y'all are a bunch of ladies. 45-70 ain't that bad." I used to shoot with a Lieutenant that I worked with, we hit the range nearly every weekend testing out our hand loads. One day handed me his Ruger #1 in 45/70 with some loads he worked up using 500 grain cast bullets and a full charge of Reloader 7. That was in the late 1980's and my teeth are still loose from touching off one round with that little rifle! I got really stupid a few years ago checking my Marlin 45/70 right before deer season and used one of those rifle rests that support the stock and keep it off your shoulder. My nephew had just bought it and I'm getting old enough that I'd had enough of getting thumped by the 45/70 at the range. Well talk about a DUMB idea. I touched off a round and it split the stock in half and broke the butt-plate into two pieces! It took me nearly a year to find another straight walnut stock and matching butt plate for that rifle. You'd think at almost 60 years old I'd have been a little smarter than that.....DUH! Anyhow, no more rifle rests I'll take the beating instead. I will say that in a hunting situation you never notice any of that and I've killed everything with my 45/70 from ground hogs to Elk. Nothing I've ever shot with it takes another step!.........Cliff I had both shoulders worked on and their sore from reading these links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 17 hours ago, Cliff R said: One day handed me his Ruger #1 in 45/70 with some loads he worked up using 500 grain cast bullets and a full charge of Reloader 7. Ruger #1 action is the strongest one out there for the 45-70s. That thing is no joke. There's 3 levels of load data, depending on your gun... #1 (strongest action), Ruger #1 #2, Modern lever guns #3, trap-door guns. You mess up and find a load and decide to use it - find a Ruger #1 load, and you have a trap-door... You don't have that trap-door, no more... There's tons of load data on 45-70s out there, but you have to be careful with what you have, and what you load... When some of you guys shoot mine (and the ones that have shot it), keep in mind, I'm 50.0 grains of IMR 3031, with a 405gr projo. The chart for that one load goes up to a max charge of 55.0 grains! Yep, nope, don't need another 5 full grains in THAT load, at all!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac82 Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 18 hours ago, 98Z5V said: Ruger #1 action is the strongest one out there for the 45-70s. That thing is no joke. There's 3 levels of load data, depending on your gun... #1 (strongest action), Ruger #1 #2, Modern lever guns #3, trap-door guns. You mess up and find a load and decide to use it - find a Ruger #1 load, and you have a trap-door... You don't have that trap-door, no more... There's tons of load data on 45-70s out there, but you have to be careful with what you have, and what you load... When some of you guys shoot mine (and the ones that have shot it), keep in mind, I'm 50.0 grains of IMR 3031, with a 405gr projo. The chart for that one load goes up to a max charge of 55.0 grains! Yep, nope, don't need another 5 full grains in THAT load, at all!... Just think of all that velocity you could get. How flat shooting it could be. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, Mac82 said: Just think of all that velocity you could get. How flat shooting it could be. 😆 IKR? Why you think they got robotic limb replacements for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 From my personal experience with these things a full charge of Reloader 7 pushing a 300 grain bullet in 45/70 is remarkably hard on the shooter. Hat and glasses removal highly recommended before you touch one off. Moving up to a 400 grain bullet is brutal! Some added padding between the stock and your cheek required, unless you want some loose teeth. I'll no plans now or to NEVER touch off a 500 grain round from one of those rifles again as long as I live! Even with that said standing up and in most hunting situations you'll probably not notice it all that much......FWIW. As a side note here my "hand loads" for 45/70 would be consider +P so I'll keep all that to myself and recommend others working with this sort of thing to go the reloading manual for starting loads and work up if/as needed........at your own risk........FWIW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 Wow, went down to the safe today as talking about 45/70 stuff got me motivated to pull out my old friends and check them out. I also searched and located the stock that I split and repaired but ended up not using it as I was able to find one in mint condition from a guy on one of the Forums. The upper rifle in the pic is the one that got a new stock. While looking for the stock I found a couple of plaques that brought back some memories........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 Very cool @Cliff R!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 Right on. I had to read up a little on Guyana. Cool to have stuff like that tucked away to bring back the memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) Thanks. Got to do a lot of cool chit back in them days, been all over that region. Can't remember ever being in a hotter place than Guyana, never checked but it's probably only a couple of clicks North of the equator. Probably best known for the Jim Jones thing........ Edited June 21, 2021 by Cliff R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted June 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 Outstanding brother 🍺🍺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 Thanks......not sure if anyone noticed but he plague from SAI School was for being on staff at the Instructors School, or train the trainers course. I can't think of a better job, teaching others to be SAI instructors and shooting guns all day! Sadly, I couldn't hang out there very long. It was a nice break from chit-tons of deployment, and Deb was getting tired of me being around so much anyhow so I short toured from there and back to the grind...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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