imschur Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Man I hope this dude just had bad luck and this isnt the norm from Marlin. I used to love the Marlin Lever guns in 45-70,444, 35 Remington etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 That's too bad to hear. My family has one of the first .444's that came out about 15-20 years ago. It had a 20" barrel that was cut to 16". It ran flawless up till last weekend. My cousin said something internal went out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I stopped watching about half way through the vid. . His comments may be legit , but all the damage to the receiver & barrel could have happened in shipping. The constant whining turned me off, I could be wrong & the Smith's at Remington could be a little in the dark about the lever action , but I doubt it.The extra dove tail in the bottom of the barrel could be because they don't make the barrel he had on there originally. & if it shot good , why whine so much.And as far as all the workers from the original plant being fired , well he did hear it on the Net! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 The constant whining turned me off, I could be wrong & the Smith's at Remington could be a little in the dark about the lever action , but I doubt it.And as far as all the workers from the original plant being fired , well he did hear it on the Net! Go over to Marlin Owners and research it.This purchase worked so well for Freedom Group that the executive in charge of the Marlin purchase and move was terminated. Quality control after the factory was moved to Ilion was so horrendous that production on Marlin lever-guns was halted, though bolt-actions and .22s are made elsewhere. Some models still aren't in production (like the .444s Robo mentioned).One of the former production managers from Marlin is on Marlin Owners (as Tomray). Prior to the change he was (still is) a HUGE resource for troubleshooting and modding your Marlin levers. Find his posts in the complaint sub-forum. Were employees fired? No.The terms they were given was move from CT on their own dime, join the union in Ilion at Remington (Marlin was non-union), lose their seniority, and take a 50% pay cut. According to Tomray that was an easy decision...nobody took that offer.Search out YouTube. There is more than that whiney guy bitchin' about his "Remlin"...box with the correct serial number but wrong make of rifle, front sights detached, levers that won't function EMPTY (let alone with ammo), on and on. There's a reason that suit got terminated.Just as with the QC of Bushmaster after being acquired by Remington/Freedom Group, Marlin took a nose-dive but even worse. Just as the former Bushmaster employees formed Windham Arms, the former Marlin employees are working at forming a new levergun company.Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Man I hope this dude just had bad luck and this isnt the norm from Marlin. I used to love the Marlin Lever guns in 45-70,444, 35 Remington etc.. my dad has an around 35 year old marlin lever in 35. I kinda always wanted one in 44 magnum, but never actually bought one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasprite Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I think every household should have a lever gun they make a great deer rifle fun to plink with and you just can't get anymore American than a lever gun <thumbsup>I would like to get .22 lever gun either an older Marlin 39a or a Winchester I haven't decided which yet probably won't till late in the year before I do.This is my current lever gun a Winchester 94ae (30-30) I know alot of you guy's hate scopes on lever guns but this one shoots MOA at 100 yards with factory ammo <thumbsup> I need to start reloading for it.As far the Marlins go I've decided to stick with the older ones that were made before Remington took over that way you only have to worry about Bubba the gunsmith and then you should be able to see his signature dremel marks on it ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I need to pick one up. I shot Jon's, and it's a damn nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I always wanted one of these. PSST Microgunner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasprite Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I always wanted one of these. PSST Microgunner...Nice now I have another one to consider <thumbsup> Don't know why I didn't even think of Browning thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripledeuce Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 As a gunsmith, I always thought that the Marlin levers were the BEST!!!! No sinter metal, or cast parts. If i were to et a lever 22, it would be an older Marlin. Respectfully Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 They're addicting.What started out as a quest for a stainless .357 rifle turned into a mild obsession. Comparing the Rossi 92 (Winchester copy) to the Marlin 1894 sold me...half the number of parts and plenty of strength for .357 Magnum.At the time Marlin didn't make them in stainless. I went for ease of maintanence. Then, perusing Marlin Owners, it was discovered how totally necessary it was to have a matching .22 rifle. I stumbled upon a 39M for $300 in well broke-in condition.Then the conspiring bastids in Connecticut came out with the .357 in stainless steel. There was a race on MO to get one...I was FIRST!! :fawkdance:Then all the QC started going downhill, Marlin had been purchased but the move had yet to take place.During this time a good guy was hard up for cash, sold me his .25-20...nothing like another caliber to be addicted to. Also stumbled into a .45 Colt someone had fubared with a poorly installed saddle ring.After the move the girl said she wanted one. Bought a 336Y Buckhorn made in Ilion. Very poor quality. Sent it back to get fixed. They sent it back with one of several complaints fixed.No more new ones for me.Last one is a 1969 336 Texan in .30-30, same age as me!The original fix we gave to my neice and her husband as a wedding present a few years ago. May as well have given them plutonium and a cruise missile.I really hope the old crew get a company up and running.Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPBCTS Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Can someone tell me when Remington took over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 December 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Besides the .444 I mentioned earlier, I was never a big Marlin shooter. However, I am quite the fan of my Winchester and Browning lever rifles. I have a .22lr Browning BL22 that is a phenominal rabbit-popper! I also have the Browning B-92 set. Those are fukcin outrageous shooters. My father did his dept rifle qual course with the .357 mag B-92! (Just to prove it could be done) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 December 2007Correct.Production wasn't moved until 2010. BATF granted Remington a waiver to use remaining receivers and barrels, which had been proofed in CT.CT barrels are stamped with a JM near the receiver and their numeric serials (unless it is a special production model), the new ones with the Remington stamp and alpha-numeric serial.When all this went down, JM prices on auction sites went up stupid like. As mentioned before, Remlins/Marlingtons just sat around for the most part due to QC issues.Remington has now taken to renaming models and stamping them like OLD Marlins. One guy got an 1894CS .357 recently. He was insistent it was sold as brand new. Marlin used the CS when they introduced the hammer-block safety, used it a couple of years, then dropped it back to 1894C. Remington is stamping CS on the barrels again.Do a little research and you can get a very nice one for a reasonable price (again).Hopefully ARs will follow suit too.Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I've got a Marlin 1894 in 44 Mag. that is over 20 years old. Now I know why people keep trying to buy it from me! I didn't know that marlin had even sold out to Remington, let alone know about the QC problems. Hell, now that I know about all this crap my kid ain't even getting the rifle until I'm dead! <lmao> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Hold onto that baby Hemi!The stock sights suck and can be improved upon greatly. If it feeds hollowpoints and SWCs you're ahead of the game. If not there are a few simple tweaks. <thumbsup>I forget the dude's cowboy persona now, but this one guy tricks out the Marlins to feed anything in any order. There is video of him cycling from the same magazine load all different profiles of bullets and empty cases too wtih no jams.Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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