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Cali the ATF and 80% lowers


washguy

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Ironically, Rob might NOT be such a dickhead.  Subliminal messaging worked.  Dawn Marie made me a surprise St Patty's Day dinner of Corned Beef & Cabbage, and it was ready when I got home!!!  Complete with Guinness!!!

 

No kidding, that $hit really happened!  :hethan:

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FYI, This is from TM's FB page.....

 

In regards to the 80% fiasco at Ares Armor, the legality of 80% receivers, and how you can avoid the ATF knocking on your door for buying an "80% receiver" instead of an 80% receiver.

It's not an 80% lower fiasco, it's a we we're selling a product that was clearly not an 80% fiasco. ATF considers any dimpling or marking of either the FCG or the hammer / trigger / safety selector as a 100% receiver. The ATF details this in the determination letter they provide you after they have approved your product. Also, the ATF considers the 3D printed lowers EP produced as once a firearm and converted to an "80%" which is a no-no because ATF has proper decommissioning standards. They print the 100% lower then print the FCG section into the 100% lower. A technicality but still "wrong" in the eyes the ATF. This ENTIRE fiasco could have been avoided by the manufacturer receiving a determination letter from the ATF saying that the item isn't a firearm.

The approved standards for 80% receivers are pretty clear cut but manufacturers are constantly looking for easier ways for customers to complete it into a firearm. Without ATF approval you could be purchasing what the ATF considers a firearm. In the past when the ATF has changed its standards on 80% receivers it notifies all manufacturers with approval determinations and gives them the opportunity to modify their product to remain compliant. They also allow manufacturers to finish selling whatever receivers are in stock that are becoming non-compliant as long as they were manufactured prior to the determination change. The ATF is very cooperative with product determinations but if you do not receive one and manufacture products that are considered firearms they will stop the manufacturer and try to determine how many firearms were sold as non-firearms. This ATF raid was not due to an ATF crackdown on 80% receivers but a crackdown on non-compliant 80% receiver manufacturers.

Tactical Machining has a determination from the ATF stating that our 80% receivers are not firearms. Make sure the manufacturer of your 80% lower has a determination from the ATF or you could end up in the same boat.

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Bahahahahaha.

We boiled two slabs of beef for dinner the other night. I love corned beef and cabbage. I ate till I was near comatose.

I have two more that are getting the crock pot this coming weekend.

Try adding a few cups of ginger ale to it in the crock pot. Edited by shepp
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