unforgiven Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Fuk tech :http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-31/the-man-bidding-to-buy-the-biggest-u-dot-s-dot-gun-maker-doesnt-own-one?campaign_id=yhoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) Eff it, I hope the guy gets it. A couple things could happen here - he drives it into the ground, devalues it, and someone that REALLY wants it ends up "rescuing him" and gets it for even less. Next, it gets Freedom Group OUT from under Cerberus... What's not to like?... <thumbsup> One disturbing quote from that article: "Sullivan says he has a long history of starting and acquiring companies—and that he has big ideas for consolidating the fragmented U.S. gun business." The very reason the US firearms market is successful is because it's "fragmented." Lot's and lot's of new ideas from independent people and small companies, which promotes growth. Even the smallest company that's thinking outside the box can come up with "the next biggest thing." Once you have a conglomeration that owns MOST firearms companies, you only have the same idiots in the same small room, dreaming $hit up - and everything looks the same. That one quote from this dipshit just shows that he desn't know the first damn thing about this market. All the better, though - we'll end up (sooner) at the first two things I mention at the beginning of this post. <dontknow> <thumbsup> Edited April 1, 2014 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 another thing showing he has no Idea what the fook he is talking about is the high end hunting guns with laser tech and tracking sorry I know of no state fish and game that will allow the use of those things hunting, and most places you hunt have no INTERNET!!!!!!! I am really starting to dislike technology it is turning humans stupid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I am really starting to dislike technology it is turning humans stupid! Already happened. Technology is a useful tool, but it has become a substitute for brain power to too many people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 The very reason the US firearms market is successful is because it's "fragmented." Lot's and lot's of new ideas from independent people and small companies, which promotes growth. Even the smallest company that's thinking outside the box can come up with "the next biggest thing." You hit the nail on the head right there Tom! <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) Sullivan doesn't know what he's getting into. Once he starts consolidating, other small-arms manufacturers will pop up. Consider Windham Weaponry - they started up when Bushmaster was sold off to the FG, and you have several independent manufacturing contractors sitting around with nothing else to do but had the equipment and know-how on hand.... FWIW, the Tracking Point stuff is pretty cool, but it also means you're chained to a battery all the time. My guess is Sullivan will probably want to buy that next. :D Edited April 1, 2014 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 The very reason the US firearms market is successful is because it's "fragmented." Another point that has been made is that when individual firearms manufacturers capitulate to lawless government demands (e.g. S&W putting locks on all their pistols for Clinton), a fragmented industry leaves us choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripper51 Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 The effort to control the gun industry by selective buyouts is nothing new. For a relatively unknown investor to suddenly make a multi-billion dollar offer (considering purchase plus legal) reeks of a strawman approach by behind-the-scenes investors to acquire and emasculate the gun industry in a company by company setting. Would not be surprised if Soros, Bloomberg or other well heeled individuals were behind this. Look up the history of the powder and bullet manufacturers and how their consolidation started. Now we have ammo shortages. A high tech firm announces it has the solution for microchips and microstamping in guns, but needs the billions in capitalization to "test out their theories". Suddenly there is a rush by supposedly tech savvy investors to buy arms manufacturing to implement technology? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Suddenly there is a rush by supposedly tech savvy investors to buy arms manufacturing to implement technology? When you can consolidate the firearms industry, you can look to the Federal Government for grants and subsidies and research initiatives and projects and, eventually, legislation to infringe the Second Amendment. It's sad to have to point this out, but, here's the deal. Sure, it's great to have crappy statistics that show guns save lives and stop criminals. Sure, it's great to see Chicagoans slaying each other with illegal guns, study it all you want. The 2d Amendment says 'shall not be infringed.' Which means, studies are pointless. 'Gun studies' are wasted money. No matter what the studies 'discover', the right to keep & bear is just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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