Owl21 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I know I am a little late to the party here, but with the utility of the SIG Arm Brace, there is really no need to do SBR anymore (unless you just really need an adjustable stock.) I have a pistol marked lower with a SIG Arm Brace, and run my 10.5" 300AAC Black Out upper or my 8.5" 7.62x39 upper. With either one, I run my 7.62 YHM QD suppressor. I also run a heavy buffer because of the suppressor. It is nice and compact, and does not require any registration. I can switch stuff around however I like without any thought of breaking a stupid law. (The QD suppressor is really nice when you run a QD FH or Comp on all of your rifles like I do.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I know I am a little late to the party here, but with the utility of the SIG Arm Brace, there is really no need to do SBR anymore Unless you can't have a pistol but can have a rifle. Plus I prefer a real stock any day of the week, and a foregrip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl21 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Unless you can't have a pistol but can have a rifle. Plus I prefer a real stock any day of the week, and a foregrip Sure, who doesn't? I just don't like even more registration. Of course, if I lived somewhere that pistols were not allowed, I would move...and it would not be the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Sure, who doesn't? I just don't like even more registration. Of course, if I lived somewhere that pistols were not allowed, I would move...and it would not be the first time. Easy to say when you don't live in California... for some it's just too hard to pull out from a half million dollar home, a job that pays a whole hell of a lot for doing very little, year around 75° weather, the ability to visit the snow/beach/desert/plains/mountains/city for a 1-2 hour drive. Have you tried our sushi? Not to mention colleges/education, more pro teams than most states combined, and ... you've seen our women, right? The song is called "California Girls" for a reason. So we have shitty gun laws, have to wear motorcycle helmets, and can't talk on cell phones while driving... While there are a few of us on the fence about leaving, understand that it is a very high and long fence, that will take quite a bit before one goes over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 The song is called "California Girls" for a reason. I sure hope you're talking about the Beach Boys, and not Katy Perry... <lmao> He listens to Katy Perry... <lmao> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl21 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Easy to say when you don't live in California... for some it's just too hard to pull out from a half million dollar home, a job that pays a whole hell of a lot for doing very little, year around 75° weather, the ability to visit the snow/beach/desert/plains/mountains/city for a 1-2 hour drive. Have you tried our sushi? Not to mention colleges/education, more pro teams than most states combined, and ... you've seen our women, right? The song is called "California Girls" for a reason. So we have shitty gun laws, have to wear motorcycle helmets, and can't talk on cell phones while driving... While there are a few of us on the fence about leaving, understand that it is a very high and long fence, that will take quite a bit before one goes over. Born and raised in Texas. I moved to California when I graduated high school. I know exactly what you are talking about. Snowboard in the morning, destert race in the afternoon, and surf in the evening; big job, big pay, big house, fine women, blah, blah, blah. Been there, done that, got the tee-shirt, left the state and the woman behind. I didn't really find it that hard to do (except for breaking down in the middle of the Mojave 50 miles out of Barstow on my way out and CHP wouldn't even call me a tow.) I even tried it again after military service, and that only lasted nine months before I had to divorce the state once and for all. Now I have a better job, better pay, better home, and far better woman. So yes, it is easy for me to say because I have done it more than once, and not just with California. I had to divorce South Carolina and Virginia as well. The Florida and Alaska divorces were forced on me, so I will be back. Like I said, I would move. Who's Katy Perry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I sure hope you're talking about the Beach Boys, and not Katy Perry... <lmao> He listens to Katy Perry... <lmao> <laughs> <lmao> So we have shitty gun laws, have to wear motorcycle helmets, and can't talk on cell phones while driving... :eek7: :eek13: Wait wait wait a minute!! Crappy gun AND helmet laws?! And you're STILL making the case to stay there?! Yup...gotta be Katy Perry. :hornet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.308LiteHunter Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Unless you can't have a pistol but can have a rifle. Plus I prefer a real stock any day of the week, and a foregrip What's the law say about putting a foregrip on an ar pistol? I've heard it's a no go, but I 've also heard an angled foregrip is ok but not a vertical one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl21 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 What's the law say about putting a foregrip on an ar pistol? I've heard it's a no go, but I 've also heard an angled foregrip is ok but not a vertical one? A forward grip on a pistol alters the weapon, and one must obtain a $5 AOW (Any Other Weapon) stamp. Therefor it becomes registered and must go through an FFL for transfers. The Magpul AFG is not considered a forward grip by the BATFE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 A forward grip on a pistol alters the weapon, and one must obtain a $5 AOW (Any Other Weapon) stamp. Therefor it becomes registered and must go through an FFL for transfers. The Magpul AFG is not considered a forward grip by the BATFE. BATFE recognized that the AFG is NOT considered a "vertical foregrip". So pistols are okay to wear them. If your OAL is less than 27" then no vert grips without the AOW. If it's over 27", then your firearm is no longer a pistol or a rifle, it is just a firearm... thereby allowing vert grips again. Did that make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Ps. I would bang Katy into a coma, dislocating both hips and leaving her permanently blind in one eye with a facial palsy that caused her to drool when she spoke. THEN, when I'm done, I'll crush a bottle of viagra into dust, snorting lines like Tony Montana, as I create reenactments of the event, until im so dehydrated that all I'm shooting is spinal fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I'm just sayin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 ^^^^^ Me too,but not the hips brother.I just got the knees done. <lmao> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXshooter Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Robo - that sounds like a recipe for a heart attack. But what a way to go! Owl - how do you like the YHM can? I have a 7.62 Phantom Titanium on order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.308LiteHunter Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 BATFE recognized that the AFG is NOT considered a "vertical foregrip". So pistols are okay to wear them. If your OAL is less than 27" then no vert grips without the AOW. If it's over 27", then your firearm is no longer a pistol or a rifle, it is just a firearm... thereby allowing vert grips again. Did that make sense? Yep thank you sir. <thumbsup> Ps. I would bang Katy into a coma, dislocating both hips and leaving her permanently blind in one eye with a facial palsy that caused her to drool when she spoke. THEN, when I'm done, I'll crush a bottle of viagra into dust, snorting lines like Tony Montana, as I create reenactments of the event, until im so dehydrated that all I'm shooting is spinal fluid. Good grief, I'd like to laugh but right now I'm cursing you for the images in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl21 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Owl - how do you like the YHM can? I have a 7.62 Phantom Titanium on order. I like it. But at 2.2 lbs on the end of a barrel, one needs some support after shooting off hand for any length of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXshooter Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 The titanium model is only 15 oz. so I am hoping it won't be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Ps. I would bang Katy into a coma, dislocating both hips and leaving her permanently blind in one eye with a facial palsy that caused her to drool when she spoke. THEN, when I'm done, I'll crush a bottle of viagra into dust, snorting lines like Tony Montana, as I create reenactments of the event, until im so dehydrated that all I'm shooting is spinal fluid. ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 VERY well played, Rob!!! :banana: :yup: :hail: :hethan: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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