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I heard a brief part of a interview this morning & the BATF/E is charging him with manufacturing ammunition with out a license ! WTF I think they said he sold the shooter 720 rd's , but I didn't hear the whole interview or other info , they said he didn't even use any of his ammo in the shooting ( but what about the Fuel Tank shots ) found his name on a box of ammo & a finger print on a Bullet . Something about Tracer ammo , sounds odd , I need to find a transcript or an article about that news segment .

The XM 80C just gages on my LE Wilsons 308 Cartridge Head Space Gage at Max. HS , which is 1.634" ( which is max SAAMI spec for 308 Case HS ), I got that info from LE Wilson yesterday . The Min. on the 308 Gage is 1.629 " . I set my Sizing Die to set the shoulder for a little above then Min. reading on my LE Wilson , which I would say is around 1.630-31" , just above the Min. flat on the Gage .

Well you are kinda young

Ya , we are getting their rejects , there could be many QC processes , including what I read the other day about the loose rounds swept off the floor & packaged for surplus , which shouldn't be an issue , I don' t think . I'm going to cut another one the same way , to see how it looks , I might have found a bad one with the first or there was indeed an issue with the way i cut it , but i was careful not to do anything to disturb the interior of the Bullet . I've just been seating a 155 SMK in the Case , so as not to lose the Primed , Charged Case .

Now why would he do that , we are doing his work for him

I was in the Navy & it looks kinda cool , would I own it , nope ! If its not at least a 444 or 45-70 , its a kids toy

Those were not for the CMP , they are for commercial sale , the importers had a State department clearance for them & O'Buthead & his henchmen put a stop to all imported used military weapons ( assault rifles ) , is my understanding . There were also M1 Carbines involved with the sale also . Some are saying the ones from the Philippines will be in bad shape . Turkey , not sure what shape they would be in . I have one from South Korea , when they came in in the 80's , beautiful Rifles , I was a FFL & got ten of them for $ 179.99 each , because I bought ten or more . I sold them for $ 275.00 each , gone in a week , except the one I kept of course . A Springfield Armory , made in Dec. of 1943 . I have a Photo or will take another .

I cut another apart , this time the one half of the Jacket fell off & no Void or pocket in this one , weight was 145.5 Grains. Probably filled to weight when assembled ( Lead can have different densities ) . It got just as hot or warm as the first one , but used a unreinforced cut off wheel ( went through four of them ) & I used Vice Grips to hold it & the Vice grips were locked in the Vice .

No melting , I took many breaks in doing it , you don't need a lot of rpms to cut through a Bullet . I started at the Base & cut through the jacket on one side & then flipped it over & could see the void when I cut through the Jacket , I didn't have a choice , the Bullet kept dislodging out of the Vice & I had to move it back into the position I needed . I guess some Lead could have popped out , but doubt it . I not sure if its hot poured into a formed Jacket or Swaged into it or some other method . The Void is probably not an accident , I'm cutting another one apart today , because I'm curious . The Bullet lost some weight because of the 1/16" thick reinforced cut off wheel , I have a thinner one to try .

Do you plan on trying for one of the 1911's , I also see that the CMP is getting more Garands from the Philippines & Turkey . 86,000 from the Phillipines & 13,000 from Turkey

Is this the Upper Receiver ? If it is you can have someone make you a Barrel , dont know who , but ask around . https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/le901-16se-upper-receiver-308-prod82254.aspx?avs|Make~~Model_1=Colt__LE901

They said I won't break the new design we will see , we will see.

When the Primers pierce , they will eat a Firing Pin or heat it up so it bends or deforms ( Hot Gas ). This is not new to them , just about everyone of the Posts here on the early GII have the same issue . DPMS finally took care of it , your not the first , but may have got an early one that was sitting at a distributor or Dealer . I sure hope they are changing the Bolts in the newer ones . A lot of people talk down on DPMS , but they make more 308AR's then most of the other companies put together , so they will have more issues & the GII is still teething , so to speak . I was going to buy my first factory AR of any kind , with the GII , but purchased a M1A instead , I still want one , but that may be a while , I have one more payment on the Socom .

Was sizing 308 today , already sized ,but was setting the Shoulder back a little because it was just a hair above the max case HS & the Handle twisted & broke off , on the back stroke . Had to unscrew the Die to get it out . Called MEC & since I have one of the first ( well second , they already replaced the whole press when new & there is a Thread here in the reloading section ) & they have redesigned the Handle & its attachment point on the press also . They will ship new assembly out tomorrow , it will get here quick , because it did last time , it was here like the next day .

All that I have got over the years had no problem shooting , this was a surprise to me about the Void in the tip , not so much the Void , but how its not uniform . I have some Targets shot & Chrono results from it in at least two different barreled 308AR's & as said it didn't shoot all that bad , wasn't MOA , thats for sure . Glad your feeling good enough to go out & bust some cap's

I didn't weigh it before I cut it , didn't expect what was inside , but I did weigh another one & it was 147.9 gr. ..I will weigh it on my Pact Scale , but doubt it will be much different . Reads 149 gr. Bullet on the Box . I dont think this ammo was made for match , probably meets MilSpec grouping at what ever their specs are & I always thought it was blasting ammo . The one guy on M14.com said the newer Fed. M80 ball gave him the worse scoring out of all the Mil.surplus he tested , thats Bad . He did get good results with other Fed Ball ammo I assume M118 & such .

Well I pulled a Bullet from one of the new XM 80C ( even though I had one already pulled from another batch ) I cut the Bullet in half with a cut off wheel & yes cutting through the Jacket made a lot of sparks . What I was not expecting to find was a void in the Tip of the Bullet that had no Lead in it , now that may be by design , but the issue I see is its not uniform & seemed to be a larger void on one side of the Bullet & Lead reaching higher on one side , closer to the Tip . It may be the way it was made , but that cant be good for Bullet flight or performance down range or grouping . If this is an example of how these end up from manufacturing , I not only will not purchase any more of this ammo , but it makes me wonder what any pulled or surplus Bullets for sale through various sellers are made the same way . with a magnet stuck to the bullet Photos of the void , no Lead melted away , didn't get hot enough it did get hot enough for the Plating to flake off on the tip of the half on the left , exposing the Metal Jacket material Loaded with 44.4 gas. of some kind of Ball Powder with some lighter gray in color balls

Your right ,this topic is not for me , because I can't understand why ,after shooting 308 in your rifle ( which is labeled 7.62x51 ), your asking if its safe to shot it in said rifle , now !

From what I heard this morning , it was the Ammo Dealer who sold him the Ammo , now that opens a can of worms !

I can only imagine the stress on the Lower Receiver by doing that , damn !

Just fitting is not enough , PSA seems not to play well with others in many regards , stick with the PSA Lower Receiver to match the PSA Upper . Be it a complete or stripped , to add your own Lower Parts .

Winchester Silver tip is 308 ammo , not a 7.62x51 NATO designated ammo . Are you asking if its OK to continue to shoot it ? The Case dimensions of both types are the same , the Barrels Chambers are slightly different , with the 7.62x51 Chamber designed to meet military combat conditions , unlike a Rifle that is cleaned after every use . Were you showing the coins in the air making those shots , just kidding

Have you ordered from CMP before ?

Contact ADCO , as above the Barrels Extension needs to be removed & installed on a new Barrel . https://adcofirearms.com/products/gunsmithing/barrel-modificationrepair/

More on others involved , indirectly , so they say . https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/search-warrant-document-shows-2nd-person-of-interest-after-las-vegas-shooting/