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Ya , well Armalite sucks , so there !

Notice how far back they are moving the Island towards the Stern . Wouldn't be surprised if it was moved all the way back the next one .

Too bad we just can't erase the entire O'Butthead era ! Like it never happened & any thing he signed or did .

A Logical assessment . Or drained

I found another older RCBS Shell Holder today & it was 0.009" less then all the unaltered ones & as far as chambering the ones I tested , they chamber fine & the Bolt closes on the Bolt gun normally . My Gages should be here Saturday , so I can see where this ammo stands , but it looks like Tolerance Stacking even on a reloading press , I have four RCBS & two Lee Shell Holders that all have different tolerances , interesting . I also found an odd measurement that I believe may not have anything to do with the issue . I took a depth measurement from the very top of the Ram ( with out the Shell Holder ) to the inside shelf in the Ram that should or shouldn't make contact with the bottom of the Shell Holder . MEC --- 0.265" Pacific -- 0.250" I don't see how that difference can make any difference , because the Shell Holder contacts the Base of the Sizing Die , so it has to be something with the Shell Holder or like that article read , the Die . Then again, those Dies have worked with two other completely different types of Presses & never had an issue .

Or it could have two bad ones in the barrel of good apples & why would you label it a bad barrel ? It like a glass half full of water ,is it half empty or half full ?

I take offense to that , putting everyone in the same barrel of apples is wrong ! If you don't like them , get together & vote them out & someone else in ! Our Meetings have an average of two Home owners at them , you have to get involved if you want change .

We would have put a lien on the house , per rules , long before that . It hurts all the home owners in the HOA & you have seen it in the Streets there & you wonder why they had to barrow the $$

Our first Amendment rights have been under attack for many years , there should be nothing you can say that you can get arrested or prosecuted for , period , but we have no idea what kind of Policy that Company has or what his individual job rules for causing the company harm , be it personal or public , so he could have violated his company policy & got canned . He still has his first amendment right , it doesn't give you the right to keep your job because you broke some clause in you company policy .

Some are like that , you read about some that are worse then that , but in most of them , the HOA is just there to keep the hood from looking like dump . The houses here in my HOA sell at the top of their appraisals & most sell with in 30 days of being put on the market , because of the rules that are agreed upon when purchasing a house here . 99% of the 154 home owners here have no problem following the rules , its actually to our benefit & you are neighbors , must never forget that . I like keeping my house & property nice , I know my investment we keep value . I still would like not to be involved , but my neighbors on my street talked me into it when I retired , they think I will keep some sanity on the Board , I hope my input has & I will be happy when I move to a non HOA house .

Here is an article http://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/die-issues-when-bumping-shoulders/ That he sent me , which I had already read yesterday , but this could be an issue also . I Have two other presses that use this Die with out issue , though I agree now , a Case Gage is an important tool & I have been reloading for about forty years & have never needed one , but now after this episode ,I will have one for every caliber I load for , just to make sure . Maybe I've been lucky all these years , but I think sound reloading practices has got me to this point > I just wonder why my test loaded round & my Dummy round I made , just before it , fed with out issue in the 308AR before I went to the range yesterday.

Lapped 0.0155" from the face of the Shell holder & Cases chamber with out an issue . I did five in a row & all chambered in the Bolt Gun. I know your asking , how I determined how much to take off , well I took my digital Calipers & measured the shoulder to the Base of a known feeding case , I know its not precise , but it was good enough to get an idea on what should be taken off . I measured all four of my 308 Shell Holders , 2-RCBS & 2- Lee's , I measured the depth from the face of the Shell Holder ( top ) to where the Base of the Cartridge sits . The lowest I got was from the brand new never used , RCBS , reading was 0.1305" , all others were very close , but wanted to start as low as I could , less to take off . I started by lapping on my Marble lapping platform with 600 Aluminum Oxide & it just wasn't going fast enough , so I had a spare Grinding wheel for my Bench Grinder & laid it down & lapped the face or top of the Shell holder till I got a few Thousands off & tried to resize a case until I got it to a point where I could close the Bolt , but it was kinda stiff , then I went back to the Aluminum Oxide till I got the Case to feed nicely , then lubed , sized a few cases to make sure it was not a fluke . When my Case Gages arrive , I will get a much better Idea on where they are at & make adj. as necessary , even if I need to start with another Shell Holder .

Damn , emailed the Engineer's at MEC last night & they called me this morning to see how they could help . Damn ! We talked about it & he sent me an article to read that might help & he also said he has heard or other reloaders with other press's that have had that issue & that turning down the Die or Lapping the top of the Shell Holder are the cure. I prefer to lap the SH myself , its the less expensive of the two & I can use it for other calibers I reload for . Just waiting for my Gages to see how much to lap off .

Well found out it is Shoulder set back (case HS ) , here's what I did , I took some of the Brass that was sized with the MEC Press & the Redding Bushing Die , made sure the Bushing was set correctly & it was , lubed a case up , resized it in the MEC , just to make sure I didn't mess up somewhere , cleaned the Lube off with 70% Alcohol & fed the empty case in the 308 Bolt action & it wouldn't let the Bolt seat , got my old RCBS Small Base Sizing Die out & set it up , resized the same case & trimmed it , & it too would not let the Bolt close . I then put the same Shell Holder in the Pacific Press , adj. a little cam over on the Linkage of the press with the same SB Sizer Die & sized it , and it had no problem closing the bolt on the 308 Bolt action . Then I took another different case from the Brass sized on the MEC & changed Sizer Die's to the Redding Bushing die , set it the same as the RCBS SB Sizer die & sized the case & it too had no issues closing the Bolt ! I'm going to contact the Engineers for MEC to see what they have to say about this new issue , which is not all that odd , as said above , I know some & read of others who had to cut down Shell holders to get the proper Shoulder set back . I'm just wondering if they sell their own & I may have to look at their web sight to see .

I got sent this from a fellow Squid . Loyce Edward Deen, an Aviation Machinist Mate 2nd Class, USNR, was a gunner on a TBM Avenger. On November 5, 1944, Deen's squadron participated in a raid on Manila where his plane was hit multiple times by anti-aircraft fire while attacking a Japanese cruiser. Deen was killed. The Avenger's pilot, Lt Robert Cosgrove, managed to return to his carrier, the *USS Essex*. Both Deen and the plane had been shot up so badly that it was decided to leave him in it. It is the only time in U.S. Navy history (and probably U.S. militaryhistory) that an aviator was buriedin his aircraft after being killed in action.<http://loyceedeen.webstarts.com/uploads/GoingHome.mp4>

Not a good day , had all kinds of issues with not being able to chamber cartridges , seems like its a shoulder set back issue , can't get enough set back , had the Sizing die base as far as it would go , touching the Shell holder . Maybe I'm over sizing them with this new press , not sure , never had this issue be fore , only time I had an issue with chambering , was when I first started to reload for the .223 & over crimped them & set the case shoulder back with a bulge . That was forty years ago , I have heard & read before that some have had to trim a Shell holder down to get proper set back , wonder if I have to do that for this new Press . I have LE Wilson Case gages ordered , so I have to do some inspecting , because all my reloads from the Pacific Press worked fine , the reloaded ammo from the MEC would not chamber in my 308 Bolt gun I took with me to sight in for the first time , could not close the Bolt . Its not COL , because I had various COL's to test & none would work , had to use a screw driver to pry the BCG back one one to get it out of the chamber . Its funny , because I always test a loaded round to make sure it Chambers & ejects before I continue with Bullet seating , Even a sized case is tested before I continue Sizing , so something is amiss , just have to figure WTF is going on . Rifle shot good when she shot , 10 shot groups made on big hole , but with the issues , I couldn't get going enough to compare anything , too much BS .

How hard can it be to get a good trigger in a Rifle by a Manufacturer. Could be a Metallurgy issue , I know how weak the Hardening is on their parts , much like Milspec AR 15 Triggers .

Do you plan on replacing the Upper Receiver to a A1 type ? Nice looking rifle , by the way . I like them both ways , A1 & A 2 styles .

Nice , congrats on the retirement , join the crowd . Now go load more ammo , your going to need it

If anyone here has a Wildgame innovations Feeder & it breaks , good luck with those imbeciles . I have a 40 gal. Direct Shot feeder that had a small Steel Paddle that distributes the Corn & it got a crack in it & started to jam . Well they sent me a RA # & cost me $20 to send it back to Texas & they sent me another new Timer/feeder back in about two weeks or so to replace it , well it didn't work at all from the get go , so I emailed the same guy back & told him the issue . The paddle would start , but the feeder wheel would not & show "OPEN " on the display , well great , I had a spare timer & it didn't make a difference , so they tell me that rechargeable battery that was just working fine in then I sent back, was not the right one for this feeder , even though it worked fine in the other same feeder , so I go out & spend $ 15 on a new hot shot Battery , their brand & got the same message , WTF . I emailed the same POS back said throwing $$ at the feeder didn't work & he was going to issue me another RA # & thats when I said BS < you sent me a bad unit , why should I pay to send it back , after a few min. ( he must have talked to someone ) he emailed me back & said I would have a return paid label in 7-10 working days , well its been much longer then that , so I emailed him back & no response , so I called them & all this butthead did was take my name & number for them to check it out . What a worthless Company , he said no parts were available , WTF , it looked like a $5 part was all that was wrong with the one I sent back , wish I had kept it & made a new paddle for it . So after a year your on your own , because they want you to buy a new one , because they don't make parts for them , I can see replacement motors for some Feeders on line , but thats about it , what a racket . Ok I feel so much better now , but you have been warned

amen ! Me too , can't wait to move & I'm on the HOA Board

I some how missed this , all is good , I broke any way because I had to pay the HOA fee .

Because of a Vet appointment ( f'ing dogs ), I have to put off range time till tomorrow , damn it !

Probably just different names for the same thing . I have had three adults in the back of mine many times ,