RayGun19

Sounds to me like your barrel nut has loosened. If the build isn't that old, it may just need retorqued. Aluminum threads can stretch slightly on initial torque on almost any aluminum assembly. That may be why Troy called for 50lbs.

I use the UBR and Heavy Buffer from Slash. Both are awesome. On my AR10, the two give a great balance to the rifle. Very neutral at the grip/magazine well region.

Advanced Armament Corp. Blackout Brake. I love mine. Does the job well. With a Heavy Buffer, my AR10 is more like a 5.56 rifle.

Why is this thread still going?? If you have $1k, save another $300 and buy the E10A4CBMF from Armalite. It's Eagle Arms, but I'm sure if Armalite is selling it on their website it's not junk. This whole project sounds like more trouble that it's worth. Order the EA rifle, pay for it, and go shooting. Or hold off, and save a few more beans and spring for the Armalite AR-10A4C.

You know, it's funny. It seems as long as our military has had rifles, the damn things come out to 9-10lbs. The long and the short of it is you just get used to whatever your rifle weighs. I have thought about getting a piece of stock from our metal supplier that is roughly the same length and weight to carry in my hands when back packing (the park district kind of frowns on me carrying my AR10 ;) )

Realistically, my AR10 has about the same recoil as a 5.56. I run an AAC Blackout Brake and have a Heavy Buffer. It all weighs in at about 9lbs with the UBR stock. I carried an M203 for a while in the service, as well as an M60 when I was younger. The M203 is about 9-10lbs. So the weight I'm used to. The entire course of fire is 800-1000 rounds for the total two days. So I figure about 400/day. We'll see. I'll let you guys know what it was like.

And if you could:

Glad to see I'm not the only HK fan. :D H&K USP 45 Tactical for my "heavy" days. H&K USP 45 CT for my "Light" days. <lmao>

Does anyone know of an add on rail that will fit the MOE hand guard, 2 or 10 o'clock position, that will put the accessory 90* to the ground? I have a Insight M6X, and to use the laser elevation and windage it needs to no be on a 45* angle. Might just be a stupid question as well.

Hahaha. Yes. Two of them. Both are crazy. One lives in Australia, the other is dating a married Muj whom she left her husband of 10 years for. Take your pick. And good luck to you sir. <lmao>

Yeah, not sure why the link won't link in. You have to go to www.greygrouptraining.com, then Training, then Instructors, and click on Kyle Defoor. It's pretty juch just a carbine class, but it's a great substitute for a guy (like me) that's not operating any longer and misses it. Here's the synopsis of the class: KYLE DEFOOR 2 DAY ADVANCED CARBINE 26-27 MAY 2012 - WATERMAN, IL Advanced Carbine course is recommended for those that have attended shooting courses before or who have a thorough understanding of carbine basics and already have safe gun handling skills. Topics covered: Accessories, weapon setup, slings, gear, sights, optics, ballistics, cleaning/lube Safety Fundamentals Accuracy Positions Speed Barricades Shooting on the move Reloads Malfunctions Multiple targets Running with a carbine Shooting under stress, shooting tests Night shoot (Facility Dependent) Projection, awareness, land marking, mindset Some drills require physical exertion and an elevated heart rate. Military and LE members are welcomed, encouraged to wear their gear and weapons as they would for their application. Days are typically 9-10 hours in length with a short lunch break. Certificates are given upon successful completion of shooting tests.

So, my wife and I are at the local gun show on Sunday. We're looking at the usual stuff, and she spies some Dag 7.62 battle packs. They were still $95/ea. And she asks if that's a good price. I answered that it was, and that it was drying up so the price had gone up. She says, "let's get you some." I'm replied I didn't know if I really needed any right now, and she comes back with, "you'll need 800 rounds for the end of May." "HUH?" "You're taking a class at the end of May. Happy Valentines-Anniversary-Birthday." "REALLY?! What one?" This one: [ftp=ftp://store.greygrouptraining.com/2-DAY-ADVANCED-CARBINE.html]http://store.greygrouptraining.com/2-DAY-ADVANCED-CARBINE[/ftp] F-n A brothers, she's a keeper.

I do not. I'm trying to learn to a bit though. They didn't have the fancy shooting/tac gloves when I was operating. We just had Nomex aviator gloves. Sometimes with the thumb and forefinger cut off. So I still use those when it's a bit cold. But generally no gloves when at a class or just shooting. That long winded answer being said, can anybody recommend modern tac gloves? Oakley? What model?

How does the OBR stand up to all this? They offer 16, 18, and 20" barrels. Anybody know?

Why not change your order to the AR10-A4C. Rail version. Why get the carry handle if you're wanting to mount optics?

I hate shows like this for a few reasons. Most of which have been cited here. My biggest peeve is "wow, you're into guns huh? Have you seen that show, sons of guns? It's awesome." And the question is usually from someone that knows next to nothing about firearms. Other than they don't want them anywhere near their kids, for the usual reasons. I lump them in with the people that try to ask me about foot-basket-base-hockey-ball. <thumbsup>

Just an observation here, but if muzzle shape/device had that much effect on the bullet, POI, energy, etc., I'm pretty sure the military wouldn't be using anything on muzzles of their sniper weapons. A few months ago, a young man recorded the longest confirmed kill EVER. And he did it twice in a matter of 5 minutes. Either that, or the effect is so slight, it's not worth the detrimental effects of not using a muzzle device. Needless to say, I'm thinking none of us will ever make an important enough shot to eclipse a live save shot like the young soldier did in Afghanistan. There is a point at which you can worry too much about the small stuff that no one else worries about. Yes?

Ugh, I wasn't really talking about that (hunting or extreme accuracy). Sorry for the misunderstanding. To me, a shotgun is for under 100yrds. And as a defensive or offensive weapon, I would think one would want to have 00 buck. Or an alternating mix of 00 Buck/Slug. I've never carried a shotgun (in the service). But I did read one article where a VN Vet claimed to have carried such a mixed load on point during patrols. And that's where I garnered that opinion. More of an "area target" weapon. Whereas a rifle is a "point target" weapon. I should have been more clear in my statement.

I have an AAC Blackout Brake, and I love it. Kills what small recoil the platform has. I would compare it to 5.56 level. And the noise isn't that bad. I have friends I've shot next to (within 5 feet) and they report it's no worse than with the birdcage.

Ditto on the street howitzer stock. Why would you need to change that anyway? It's an axe, not a precision rifle.

USAF for 18.5 yrs. 8yrs with AFSOC. Actually thinking about being a dumb ass and going back in. <lmao>

I also disagree. SOCOM isn't using them because they are junk. I have an SSA-E and plan on using nothing but. Comparing an SSA to a Remmy 700 (provided it's one of the match or XCR/LR/T rifles is like comparing sex to sleeping. Wait, did I just say that?

Damn, I only read part of this last night. And now, two more pages??? In my humble opinion SHTF 308, you need to learn more about the people on a message board, gun club, etc. before jumping in with a subject like this. Again, just my opinion, but survival with any type of catastrophe where you expect to need to defend you and yours with an armed response is not everyone's bag. So you should expect some of the responses like you've gotten. Training??? I would have thought you would have sought out something like the NRA Basic Rifle course FIRST and at least familiarized yourself with a rifle. Shotguns and rifles are different like doing surgery is with an axe or a scalpel. Taking some of the courses mentioned AFTER the NRA Basic Rifle Class is almost a must. Several schools have rifles you can rent, and therefore experience various do-dads and tacticool equipment options before you jump in head first as a civilian. Making non-friends (re:enemies) of the military members of this or any board is not going to garner you any advice on courses to take, equipment you might want, accessories, etc. Survivalist/prepper subject matter? Well, I would think that most (God I hope I'm not going out on a limb here) of the members don't own equipped .308 AR platform rifles because they need to be tacti-cool for their neighbors. But most people will at least offer advice on how a weapon should be used. Given you aren't just jumping in with "hey, when the world goes to poop, what gun should I own and how much ammo do I need?" If you do, then you're likely to be written off as a "survivalist gun nut" or an air soft commando, and well, both are just wrong. Like, a screen door on a submarine wrong. And just as useless. And the language. Dude, no one likes a sceenster 15 year old who text speaks. If you're at work, I'm sure you're employer would like you to be working, rather than texting a message board about what rifle you need to defend your home against your co-workers when they come for your food and water. Oh, and one more thing: <munch>

HOLY CRAP! 10,000 rnds a month???!!! Hmm, 10,000/month, 300/day, that's $4,300.00/month at $0.43/rnd. And THAT'S FOR THE CHEAP DIRTY CRAP. Who the hell has $4500/month and enough time to go shooting that often??? I think your "repected" board member on that "other" board is full of it. Even when I was on active duty, we were lucky to put 1500-3000 rnds down range in a month. And that was with a 10-14 hour day of training, plus regular training. And not all rifle. I don't think I need to echo what the other guys have said. I just wanted to comment on the cost/time factor to shoot 10,000 rnds a month. Spend some bucks on the weapons you have, and enjoy them. And if you get enough time to shoot even 500/rnds a month, let me know how you do it. I'll implement your plan. <laughs>

Damn is it good to hear someone say this. I see so many people riding the charging handle or slide on their weapons at the range. It's not a club, but weapons are made by Tiffanys either. I will say I looked into getting multicam applied to my long rifle. I've seen some photos of fielded weapons with it applied. They disappear. That's water transfer printing though, not tape.