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I wouldn't even worry about a reserve price. I bid recently on an old-with-rust .22 magnum I didn't really want. It sold for just under $800. Jon

Two links for you all. Now you can take this as a "they're in the tank for Obama" if you want. I believe the more important moral is the lying bastards aren't truthful whatsoever. http://times247.com/articles/cbs-news-affiliate-calls-election-for-obama-2-weeks-early Now if Romney wins, was it honestly? How will you ever know? I think I'm beginning to understand why so many "journalists" are murdered in other countries. Jon

You know Mike, thank for letting me shoot both of your .300WSMs! Now that I think about it you are probably right...that Winchester is kind of a bummer! Tell you what...next time we meet, just leave it with me and no one will have to know you ever owned it. I'll dispose of it discreetly. 8) Jon

That was capital-F FUN!! Mike had that buffer to slow it down but somehow Robo got it down to the cyclic rate of a Tommy Gun at first...THEN he brought up the burp factor! Count on an increase in your ammo budget. Jon

Howdy and welcome Stan! Most manufacturers say they will void the warranty if you shoot reloaded ammo. Just reload well and pay attention. Jon

Thanks and you're welcome to all! Greg, you should mention "Ladies with childs shooting head shots with a shotun!" <laughs> Don't think you're safe breaking into those homes with the men away. Next time the Freedom Machine should be set up more properly for l-o-n-g range, with a new uncracked stock on the M1903 (that wadded my joxers). More firearms on a table than TPD SWAT has...and that was just Tom's table! <lmao> He's gonna need one of those Kenworth pickup trucks soon. Jon

Now go back and seriously read what was written at the founding of our great nation. Look at the list of grievances filed against and ignored by the King of England. Much as we have in our government today. It is time for a do-over. If not now, when (leave it to our children?)? If not us, whom (again, our children?)? Jon

The Declaration of Independence When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them. He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within. He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands. He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers. He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance. He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures. He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power. He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States: For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world: For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury: For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies: For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us. He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people. He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation. He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands. He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions. In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends. We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

I've been bitching since, after training for years to "protect us against the communist threat", we brought Soviet admirals and generals on board the USS Kennedy to show them what we have. That was the sedgeway into Bush's "Time for a New World Order" speech. The test is simple: will anyone from either (D) or ® reverse the march to cede our American Way to globalist management? Anyone can spew out opinion as fact. Look at the trend over the past 50 years, start with Nixon reaching out to China. Every president since Eisenhower has said we need to reduce dependence on foreign energy sources...yet imports have increased under each consecutive administration. During that time bipartisan policies have crushed American textile industry, American farming, American mining, American industry. Signators to "international agreements" that bind our hands of true capitalism. Worldwide the longing was for American freedom, in American blue jeans, listening to American rock-n-roll, in an American made car on its American made radio. The bipartisanship of these evil need-to-be-hanged bastards ensures that any law that is passed by both houses of congress and signed by the president, exempts themselves and their families from suffering that which they deem "fair enough" for the American people. With very few exceptions, all ®s and all (D)s vote themselves increased bennies, a few years back voting themselves permanent automatic payraises. Now, if you wish to keep bobbing for apples in the Port-O-Potty and telling yourself that a red apple is better than a green apple, and everyone needs to keep dunking for the red apple, good for you. From my point of view everyone keeps coming up with a mouthful of poop and blue chemical water. Jon

The Slidfire was mighty-mighty! Mighty enough that I can see it ripping holes in pockets all over the board here. <laughs> A very awesome day indeed! Tom forgot to mention we did three womb-based initiations also...the next generation in 20 years will say "I can't remember the first time I went...feels like I've always been here." <lmao> BTW...happy National Gun Cleaning Day! Jon

Yeah, that split vote argument is old and tired. Neither major party has gotten my vote since George I. Both parties trash the constitution when convenient, then point fingers and accuse at other times. When things are really critical they give us bipartisan votes that undermine United States sovereignty and legalize criminal behavior against or criminalize behavior of American citizens. Gun Owner's Protection Act, NAFTA, WTO, IMF, GATT. Twice now I can document GOP candidates in AZ that gave me hope...but they weren't the "GOP annointed" candidate. Won the GOP primaries overwhelmingly. One is Randy Graff, who was running against Giffords her first time out. The other is a current Pima County candidate. Both times the state and national GOP has said "We don't hold a position against the (D) and are not endorsing the ®." That and the crap they pulled at the 2012 RNC with scripted rule changes and they deserve my vote because????? No more blind faith in man. Keep voting for evil if you can stomach it. Talk to me when you're ready to vote for Rope. Jon

I ordered one. Heck, $95 and $25 goes to charity?! Jon

I've seen him in concert once. Kinda hard to beat angorra bikini-n-thigh-high-boot clad go-go dancers under blacklights! Very good show! Jon

"No, it is at LEAST this big!" <laughs> Good thing I packed a levergun for that greenhorn! MikeH is parking here about 0700, then we're heading up to SV! My packing list is: M1903A1, Marlin 1894S .45 Colt-housegun special, 1894CSS .357 Mag-a-num, Mossy 930SPX (don't be scared!), BWK-47 in .223, a .45 auto, a .45 auto, and a .45 auto. Ammo for all. IF we can get my Ford Ranger up to freeway speeds with mine and Mike's stuff, we should be kicking in someone's door by 0900. <lmao> Who's wearing the bunny suit? Jon

Well, as I've never won, I'm not sure. I sign up for the freebies also, never used any of the coupons. Figure that winning a case of ammo is worth the extra emails. Jon

I've been on their list for awhile. Sometimes it is discounted deals, other times it is free. Today it is a chance to win a FREE 480-round case of .308 ammo!! http://www.gearhog.com Jon

If you cast, you can do .45 Colt boolits WAY over 300gr! One dude I talk with was moving 325gr RNLFP at just under 1,000fps. Says it works on all the big game in his area. No kidding? <lmao> Jon

You'll probably make out better holding onto it and selling it in a week. Use the "Obama's coming again!" sales pitch. Jon

John Carpenter's The Thing, with Kurt Russell. The slasher flicks bug me. Doesn't anyone...ANYONE...pack a 1911? Jon

Wow-o-Wow! Mikedaddy and I are carpooling from Tucson early Sunday. I'm starting to get happy-dog-excitement redboner! <laughs> Jon

I did have an issue with it the other day. While perusing the website, poop kept getting added to my cart, and the next thing I knew I got an email telling me credit card had been charged by Brownell's! At least I can tell my wife someone else is having issues with it. ;D I don't like the new look. And Brownell's prices are not quite as competitive as they used to be. Jon

That's great! I don't get nearly distracted enough by the hundreds of slow-motion shooting/bullet splatting/ballistic-jello dancing videos on youTube already. :o Jon

Welcome from Arizona coleman! Jon

We just need one more party to even things out quite well. The Full Metal Jacket party. Members of this party vote for the politicos they do NOT want with a simple squeeze of the trigger...vote early and vote often. I've been pushing it for a decade now but nobody wants to join. Jon