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Good points. I happen to have 30-06's because as flyer said, when I was a kid, that is what I could afford to shoot. And once you become familiar with a cartridge rifle combo, it doesn't make sense to switch to something very similar. As 3-2 said, there are many fine cartidges out there. Is the 270 a better distance rifle when fraction of inches matter? Yes. Is it a better all around? Not really for the reasons listed above. It all depends what the specific use is going to be. I would feel comfortable carrying either.

Looks good Shepp, Ever try brining a beef roast, or at least using salt water to season it? Gives a completely different taste than just rubbing it with salt and seasonings. I brined some T-Bones today, and rubbed them down with raw garlic. Gonna put them on in three hours.

Both have advantages. If you reload, the 30-06 shares bullet diameter with the 308, so you could reload the same bullets for both. If hunting in brush or woods, the 30-06 can load slightly heavier bullets which may reduce deflections, but that is debatable. For distance shooting, like out west, the .270 wins hands down. The Late Jack O'Conner of Outdoor Life Magazine considered the 270 the perfect big game bullet. ( this was before the 280 and the 7mm Remington Magnum.) It is flatter shooting to longer distances than the 30-06, With slightly higher velocities, as it is a necked down 30-06 case. Not to mix up the issue, but you may consider the 300 Winchester Magnum, if distance shooting is your goal.

Ho Hum, maybe if you live in Conneticut, Massachusets, or California. My sympathies to you guys.

With that size magazine inventory, with all due respect, I think I would build another B model with all the great deals on them right now, unless you are planning to sell it. I have 18 gen II mags, and that is all I will ever need. You can get a carbine or rifle, your choice color, for $999. They did have four Super SASS for $1899 each, but sold those out already.

A shout out to all of you who worked or are working today to protect the rest of us. Don't know what we would do without you.

I think Armalite may have miscalculated. On one hand they introduced a new line of discount Armalite AR's with "A" model magazines in the DSR. At the same time they liquidated their "B" model stock at huge discounts through a second party (see CDNN). Since the last Obama induced buying craze, the market for modern sporting rifles is saturated for the time being. Add closeout "B" models to this, and the market gets smaller still. Long story short: because of these factors I haven't heard of any one who has purchased one yet, so nobody really has first hand experience. Hopefully there is a forum member out there who can enlighten us with some first hand reports on the Defensive Sporting Rifle.

Moral of the story: Never have your Thanksgiving dinner catered by Nemo's Seafood Emporium.

Happy thanksgivng everyone, and feel free to stop by and have some of my turkey. (Pictured below)

As good as Armalite B mags are, and they are excellent, go with the A Model using P Mags. The B models I bet are discontinued within a year.

I shouldn't have read that with a mouthful of coffee. Lol.

that idea has some potential, I have the same issue with my cordless.

Might try an inversion table, helped me a lot with my back issue.

Dude you are serious. What do you do for core strengthening? I need some ideas.

Welcome, the 308AR is a great platform, you will have a lot of fun with it.

You can't fight genetics. Unless I go on a starvation diet, I am still gonna have a build like that old pro wrestler, The Crusher. That and I like food too much. But the more I work out, the more of it is muscle. Plus, I am 66 now and can still take a ten mile hike no problem. Thing I can't do are situps and leg lifts because of my back, so I am trying to figure out another way to work my gut. For me at this age, it's about a few more years able to do the things I want. Chasing the opposite sex around the retirement home is not in my short term plan.

the weight of most AR308's is pretty substantial, and a good general physical fitness program gives the strength and stamina to make anyone a better shot, particularly in an active shooting environment such as hunting, three gun matches, etc. I would be curious to hear what different members of different ages do to keep in shape and ward off the couch potato bulge. Magwa, I know you are a runner. In that mountain air you live in that probably gives you one heck of a lung capacity for endurance. I hit the gym regularly , right now I have a five day a week program of stairmaster, elliptical and free weights going. A couple of bilateral vertabrae stenosis limit my running. But I am always looking for new ideas. Any body got any? I looked through past posts but didn't see anything on this. Unless I missed it.

That Armalite double lapped barrel is no slouch in its own right. Here is a group with a 20 inch one at 100 yards.

The Brazilians make a lot of ethanol out of sugarcane. It happens to be probably the most efficient plant to make ethanol out of becuase of its high sugar content making for an efficient fermantation process. While you are at it, make some 151 rum! Seriously, a pretty straightforward distilling process would probably do it. Try googling Sugar cane ethanol production. Should find something.

My mistake. I assumed we were talking their 308 line. Actually one of the defensive rifles is in 308 as well.

Probably less than you think. Armalite is in the process of revamping their whole product line. Check the CDNN thread in this Armalite section for some links to some closeout deals, I am guessing that the Defensive rifle will become their budget line competing with DPMS/Bushmaster, etc., and they will be expanding and improving their "Prime" product line. Firearms media reports indicate they will be partnering with stock, barrel and accessory manufacturers to come out with some highly refined and accessorized AR's. All standard Armalite barrels are Chrome lined, except the stainless models, so I am thinking the defensive rifle is just a new term to get away from Assault rifle.

Up here we use essentially the same process to make maple syrup. Only we collect the sap, boil it down, skimming off the impurities, until it reaches the desired concentration. It takes fory gallons of sap to make one gallon of maple syrup.

Ever been up there hunting With Canucks you learn quick they are tough. They will go all day in -25F weather they would send most of us to the sauna. That, lakewind this time of the year is tough Unforgiven, it has a lot of moisture in it that chills you to the bone. I feel for you man, stay as warm as you can. I live on a point on the big lake, and we have found plain old wood fire heat is the best way to combat that wind. It takes the moisture right out of the air like nothing else. Hard to do that in downtown Chicago though.

Check this Link, http://www.cdnnsports.com/firearms.html Rifles and carbines $999 guessing they are all B models. All with scopes rings and bipods.

WW2 German tech was amazing. Where they got an "F" was in ease and volume of manufacturing. Only 1,347 Tigers were ever built. 6,000 Panthers were built. The Americans produced 40,000+ Shermans and the Russians 40,000+ T34's. Plus both the Tigers and Panthers were prone to breaking down and were essentially hand built, as methods for their assembly line manufacture were never developed. Same with the Me 262 jet.The Germans had tech superiority, but they were way behind in assembly line techniques compared to the Americans and the Russians.