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This will change gas port diameter details, that I've previously listed, and what most people know here, from my gas port information that I've posted previously here. You're 18" rifle gas, with a journal diameter of 0.875". That's not the common barrel config - 0.750" journal for the barrel you describe is common, and anyone can figure that one out, by now. I've like to see what WC drilled that thing at, and those numbered bits that were mentioned before is the gonna be the only way to determine that gas port diameter that you have right now. I already know what size port you need for it - I wanna see what it's at right now, to see if that matches up with what you're stating about ammo performance so far...

You need to shoot better ammo, first off. I'm going through things in your details that I'll keep giving info on... So, the Hornady 165gr locked a bolt back with one round in the magazine? That's the test, right there - one round, lockback, from a mag. Tells you that the gas system and the recoil system are pretty close, especially on a new gun, right out of the box. Or new build, out of box, first time firing. Get into the details of that AP rifle buffer kit you used. Got buffer weight at 5.6oz, but is that listed weight - or what you weighed on a scale? 5.4 is what a rifle buffer should weigh. Almost no way around that, by it's design. Buffer length, receiver extension internal depth, spring length, coil count and wire diameter... You did a good job describing the parts used, but on the barrel you didn't state the gas system length. Easy for me to figure out, because you stated gas tube length of 15.5" - it's rifle length gas, and it's the Armalite AR-10 rifle gas tube length. Glad to see WC doing that, selling it, because they know their gas port location is fucked up, and "in between" - which is bullshiit, and they know they shouldn't be doing it. Pick a standard, Wilson Combat, and fucking stick to it. Go one way, and go AR15 shiit - or get your act together with the AR-10 gas system, and do it right. Halfway is lazy, Wilson Combat, and you know it. Get a better CNC Operator that knows the difference, or TRAIN your CNC Operator TO THE DIFFERENCES... That's because you got the 15.50" Armalite AR-10 spec rifle gas tube. The AR15 Rifle gas tube would have had your tube ending in the front of the cam pin cutout, which sucks. What you have - That's fine. Better to have a little more "gas timing" than having "not enough gas timing"... Your cartridges that are extracted from the chamber will appreciate it - and you'll appreciate it, if you'll be reloading your brass that's extracted and ejected. "Not enough gas timing" - shortass gas tubes - want to start extracting your brass before the case has cooled in the chamber, and you'll see bent rims, and all kinds of other problems with your brass. Not a big deal if you're not reloading, and just throwing away range brass. A gas tube that extends beyond the center of the cam pin cutout is still providing gas pressure - and little too long - than what it's supposed to - but that doesn't damage brass. It doesn't start extracting early, like a shortass gas tube, but it still gives a little more push after the extraction process starts - and that's okay. Not detrimental. Again - not a rant on you, man. This is free education. Please don't think I'm attacking you, because that's not the intent. I'm not preaching at you, demeaning you in any way - what I've stated is the the complete dumbasses that come after you and read this thread - and want to try to argue something. Shut 'em down right now.

It's not just the last guy - or the guy before that, or the guy before that - it just gets tiring. Grinds you to dust, trying to extract information from someone, just to try to help them with their gun issue - and they don't help. I'd rather drag my own teeth out of my head with my own pliers, anymore. Just done with it. Want help? Comply with information. Options? Zero, if you're the one that needs the help - and FREE information to fix your gun. You, that needs the information, are the one that complies with the subtle and polite requests that have been made of new users over the years. I'm just the complete dickhead that's gonna shut all the bullshiit down, and literally be a dick to new people, that either don't want to comply with the nice requests from the past - that we've made specific threads about in great detail - or those that don't wish/want to comply, and think they're owed information... just because someone here has the information. Call me the "Gun Fixer Information Jackass" if it needs to be. I'll take any title. Free info without complete information doesn't get answered here anymore. TIred of guessing, tired of giving out recommendations that don't get followed, - then... "this is what happened when I shot it last, it didn't work again..." Well, guess what - you applied HALF of what you were told to do, and didn't do the other half. Your gun is STILL fucked up because you either cannot follow directions, or you decided to NOT FOLLOW directions. At this point, MY point is - not my problem. Figure it out on your own. Please, @Joky375 don't take my rant as personal, or directed at you. It certainly IS specifically directed at all those before you, that don't listen to "recommendations." They're not really recommendations - they're guaranteed fixes, for what ailes your gun. We've figured it out. Done. Already did it, and shot it. It works, THIS way. When you receive "recommendations" here on how to fix your gun - that's exactly what you need to do to fix your gun. This isn't given lightly, it's not a "guess", and it's not "what might work" - it's what WILL work. It's from years of experience, years of shooting these things, and literally THOUSANDS of dollars on ammo, per dude that's stating something - experimenting on this platform, and that goes across multiple calibers. Just about every caliber that you can shoot through this Large Frame platform, we've already done, played with, figured it out, and spent too much money on it getting that done. We don't do this - buy different calibers and play around - to help the whole community. It's purely selfish, and vindictive, on a personal nature, because there's never gonna be a caliber or barrel configuration that beats any one man here. We're relentless in that. The Large Frame Platform is already mastered, in just about every caliber you can imagine. It's already been done here, figured out, solved, and posted about. If not, and you have some weird shiit you wanna shoot - we have the intelligence to figure it out and get your gun running. Again, sorry for the second rant - bottom line - help US help YOU with this gun. It'll get solved, I guarantee you that. Off the soapbox now...

I absolutely love mine, brother. Right now, it's the very best electronic ear-pro that you can buy. When something else comes out that's better, I'll try them, and jump on that bandwagon. Right now, nobody makes anything better. This is the best out there.

Welcome aboard, man. Before you spend a ton of time researching - what we see during research, is most people tend to pull up the OLDEST information first here, for whatever reason that it comes up for them... Just ask a question... Let us know what's on your mind, first. If it's old, covered information, you'll get a link to a thread on that information. If it's old, outdated stuff that you're referencing - that gets corrected, but sometimes it's painful - because you're referencing old, outdated info. Alot has changed in this platform, in the 14 years that this place has been around. Alot. There's alot that was recommended around the 2010~2012, 2013 timeframe... that we wouldn't recommend anymore. Save the headache - just ask us now...

Nice choice on the CAA SideSaddle Stock Adaptor - BATFE can't fuk with that one, with their attempted new "rules and laws" - because it's not a "brace" - those jackasses. I have a pile of those things.

Just for keeping it real - start your own build thread with these specifics in the Build Section. If you post it here, it's gonna get lost in the daily traffic. Don't post your specifics in this thread. Here's the Build Section, post your details here - start a new topic on YOUR gun: https://forum.308ar.com/forum/47-building-a-308ar/

Measure your gas port, check your gas tube protrusion into the upper receiver, list your barrel specs, and fully inspect and report on your recoil system - receiver extension INTERNAL DEPTH INTO THE TUBE, buffer length, buffer weight, recoil spring relaxed length, wire diameter, coil count... Based on that information, we can tell you if the gun is gonna run, or need work. Right away. All that stuff is fully covered in the "Waterboarding Thread" - it's right here: By the way - welcome aboard. Don't take this as discouragement. Details are necessary to determine if a build will function - from one's written words over the internet. Don't guess, don't assume that the manufacturer tells you a spec - measure it. Determine it, and report it. Your gun will run, if it fits the specific criteria for a running gun. Or it won't run, if it doesn't fit that criteria. We can make it run. With information.

Hey, Joe-Bama, here's what I hear that Trump had to take down. Brace yourself for it, you'll need to eat it, too...

I have a vested interest in how this turns out, specifically right now. It's not legal, directly after West Virginia Vs. EPA, Bruen, 5th Circuit Court against bump stocks. But they felt they had enough balls to do it anyway, and went with it. Rolled that dice. BATFE needs wrecked by the court decision that WILL come against them. And it needs to happen fast. They need put in their place once and for all, and that's already been done by legal precedent - Jurisprudence - from these prior decided cases. Once this one happens, I think the FRT triggers is gonna get wrecked, too. You're an agency that enforces passed laws. You don't get to "invent" laws. We have recent Supreme Court cases that define that, directly. You don't get to "change definitions" and "rewrite laws" and "modify definitions" on your own - that's for Congress, and Congress only. Period, full stop. No other argument matters. Get ready to eat a big dick, BATFE, over this one. You didn't step on your dick with golf cleats here - you JUMPED on it. Embrace the Suck, when you get shut out over this idiotic direction that you've taken. Oh, Biden - you can suck it, too. Trump had to eat that dick, recently, on what he did for bump stocks - your turn, bro... You though Corn Pop was a Bad Dude. The Supremes are gonna hand you your ass on this one... Based on precedent... RECENT precedent...

FWIW, everything I shoot is handloads, tailored to the gun, for what it's meant for.

MAN!!! You've been gone for WAY TOO LONG!!! Welcome back around, Ed! First, what kind of matches are you shooting - that's gonna determine where you go on the ammo selection. That one thing. Describe the matches that you're shooting. I shoot an Accurized AR Match monthly. All gas guns, only. Nothing shorter than 200, precision targets (small targets) at the shorter ranges, and it goes out to usually 660 yards, full sized IPSC plates or 18" diameter targets out there. We had one at 710 yards, one time in the last 1.5 years. I usually shoot 5.56 on these, but I've shot the 6 ARC once, .260 Rem a couple times, etc. The 5.56 can handle this match, so that's what I've fallen to, generally. It's usually the Mk12 Mod 1, but a couple months ago, I switched it up to the 16" 5.56 precision gun, and it did well. In the future, it'll probably be the 12.5" Grendel that makes it out there. It's all in making it harder on yourself, and stretching the gun to it's limits. Describe the match that you'll be shooting, man - that's gonna make ammo selection easier to recommend.

There's alot of PSA information up here, and even a specific section for all of it. The problems with their Large-Frame guns are prolific. So are the fixes. This seems like a short chamber - and the only fix for that is having a gunsmith ream the chamber deeper. You check this gun with any headspace gauges - the Go and No-Go gauges from any of the gauge manufacturers? What brand did you use? Different barrel manufacturers specify which gauges they use when chambering barrels, so PSA should be able to tell you the brand of gauges THEY use when chambering barrels. DC Machine is the barrel manufacturer that PSA bought several years ago, do DC Machine makes all the PSA barrels on their house-produced guns. Call PSA, and call DC Machine, ask that question. If you didn't check the headspace, don't even bother with the call. It won't help, and you'll get a run-around from both companies. This doesn't surprise me, at all, from them. Yep, that's a short chamber. That barrel wasn't made right. That's probably not gonna happen, unless you buy a different gun that works, from the factory. Aside from the short chamber that you seem to have, there's other things you'll need to fix on that PSA gun. It's all detailed out in the PSA Section on that. We've solved everything that they've done, over time, and figured the gun out in order to make it run. Short chamber is not on the list, though.

I haven't read this long thread of yours yet. This is your first post here, so very first, go rip you up some Intro Section, and tell us about yourself. Here's the Intro Section - I'll link it so it's easy. https://forum.308ar.com/forum/22-introductions/ Just go tear that shiit up, and tell us about yourself. That's step #1. Second, you need to read the Waterboarding thread, and comply with it's requests. I'm not even reading about this gun of yours until I have all the full details on it - ALL the details. Here's the Waterboarding Thread, linked for your convenience: Blow those 2 out, read them, soak it all in, understand it - and get back in here and tell us what your gun is doing. I'm not doing anymore of this waterboarding, after that last guy. Comply. We'll fix your gun. Don't comply, make it difficult - pansy around with details here and there - I'm not reading, not helping. Give exactly 2 shiits about your problem. Sounds harsh, I get it. I'm here to gladly hand out free information and fix your gun. I'm not giving it out freely, without the details of your gun. All the details. You didn't fuk you, here - the last guy did. Done with the bullshiit, and you're the first dude after that asshat that happened to show up, and have issues. Comply with the requests, and the help will freely flow. Or... Do whatever... If you want your gun fixed, compliance with the requests is an easy thing to accomplish. Just do those 2 things.

That's the skeery part, right there, brother.

So, THIS heated up on Friday the 13th - and we're not talking about it. Bottom line in all this bullshiit comes back to 26" OAL. If it's 26" OAL, it "can't be concealed," according to LAWS ON THE BOOKS... so this is all moot. Here's some comments on this Hot Mess. Ian, at Forgotton Weapons is a Ninja. Mike Glover makes good points, and isn't happy: There's more that will come of this, and the bottom line is - West Virginia Vs. EPA, The Bruen case in NY, the recent 5th Circuit Court ruling on Bump Stocks... This will get DESTROYED in court. But will it happen within the magical 120-day timeline that BATFE has established?... Prepare to be Felons, men. It's a trap, man-made trap, by this current administration. That's the bottom line.

Holy shiit!

Nice work, man - well done.

NO!!!

I still want to set this one up badly. I'll smoke this one. Might not be 61.94, but nobody is gonna beat me when we do it.

This is why we do what we do, boys. Remember the Fast Rope pistol drill? We did that a few years ago - the fast rope is still in a corner of a bedroom on my house. Drag the 75ft Fast Rope back to the shooting position, it has 2 x 25lb kettlebells attached to the end of it - elevate heart rate before shooting the pistol course of fire... It's a fake way of getting that adrenaline dump, before you have to shoot the course of fire - simulates getting caught off guard, and the adrenaline dump you'll see... Only a few dudes wanted to do it, most bowed out, thought it was stupid. @Matt.Cross drug that fast rope back, with 50lbs hanging off the end of it - This is why, for what it's done. It isn't to test stength of a certain individual - it's to add artificial stress, to make you shoot your pistol better when you're at a point that you REALLY need to be able to shoot your pistol... Read this quote: How did you decide to incorporate some of the workouts and more unorthodox stuff into what you were doing? PM: When I was in special ops units, we did a lot of that. Once I got into the civilian world, I realized, that when I put up my very first YouTube video, I was stationary as well. I was doing the same thing everybody else was, you know, all the other YouTube gun nerds. I looked at that video and really that's not me. It kind of fell flat. So I thought, well, let's see how this plays. Let's start doing stuff that I did while I was in the unit. For instance running and gunning, pushing, pulling, sweating, getting that heart rate accelerated before you go into a hard course of fire. And the response spoke for itself. Guys were like, “Yes.” So I started pumping a bunch of those out, like over the top, ridiculous, climbing rope, pushing a truck videos. I was throwing sandbags, strong hand shots from 50 yards, jumping up into the back of my truck, balancing kettlebells overhead. They were like “shot impossible” stuff. And the results are because of the number of views I saw and the responses were mind-blowing. So I thought I needed to keep doing this because nobody else was. Now, it didn't take long before other guys started doing that too. They said, “Oh, man, this guy. I need to do this just crap too.” I also incorporate a lot of movement in my courses. Nothing brutal, because I always have a pretty broad and wide skill set disparity, physical disparity, and age disparity. So I'm careful. We don't drag kettlebells, climb ropes, and crap like that. But there's a lot of movement, a lot of kinetics, a lot of foot movement, a lot of dance steps because fighting is fighting. There's going to be movement, there's going to be kinetics. So that has to be incorporated into the training. And people freaking love it, they just love it. Well, you saw it on Sunday. All the movement stuff that we did. You won't see that kind of stuff on any other range unless people are copying what I'm doing Here's the whole article: https://www.thevetsproject.com/the-blog/sgm-pat-mcnamara-army-special-operations

That's 3 MOA ammo, at best, so don't feel bad. Not your handloads - that M80 ball stuff Until you get your handloads sorted out, but they're still 155gr pills going through a 1:10" twist barrel, that really wants to shoot 168~175gr projectiles. Those 155s aren't gonna be the ultimate projectile that you use to determine how accurate your gun really is. They're just not. They're too light. To determine how accurate your barrel really is, you need to feed it what it's meant for. You pick up some Federal Gold Medal Match 168s and 175s, shoot those - see how that barrel does. That's gonna tell you if you have an accurate gun or not. After that, and your mind is assured - work on your 155s and make them the best that you can make them.

Yes, it's a standard DPMS-based LR-308-patterned barrel. BA makes barrels that will mesh quite well in STAG Arms guns. Perfectly.

I think I heard that BA separated from Aero. Let me see if I can find public info on that. That's just what I heard, industry shiit. Nothing out there publicly. I'm not saying anything. Be reading for an industry announcement, though. Not saying any more on that subject.

Best user of a comparator gauge that I know of is @JBMatt - lets get him into this conversation and hear his info. He's the most meticulous person I've ever met, for brass prep, and making badass handloads. Bar none.