blue109 Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 if anyone was holding out hope on the new owners getting your stuff shipped...not looking good. http://www.runnerrunnerguns.com/Shadow_Ops_Weaponry_Billet_Lower_p/ffl-shadow-ops-raw.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelDeVille Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Those look cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 if anyone was holding out hope on the new owners getting your stuff shipped...not looking good.http://www.runnerrunnerguns.com/Shadow_Ops_Weaponry_Billet_Lower_p/ffl-shadow-ops-raw.htm Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 That's sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 They look half finished . Wonder if those are ones that were sold once already . <dontknow> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 They look half finished . Wonder if those are ones that were sold once already . <dontknow> ^^^ I thought the same thing. That's what really sucks - those were already bought by somebody else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted April 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 pretty cheap too! to bad there were so many complaints about out of specs lowers. not worth the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaseFan9 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 I wouldn't buy one for the simple fact that you're, more or less, buying stolen property. Plus I'd hate to buy an actual 80% paper weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Chase, that one linked is fully machined and ready to put together... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted April 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 a dealer here in az ,AZEX, just got 2 of the SOW suppressors in the mail....no customer name with it (and he had a couple customers who ordered them) no instructions. he said hey are unfinished. the caliber adaptors just rattle around inside and he doesn't know if there's suppose to be more parts with it. there were some loose orings in the box. basically said it looks like a complete piece of crap and recommends it not be used lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Are they even salvageable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 the investors who took over made a total disaster of it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 a dealer here in az ,AZEX, just got 2 of the SOW suppressors in the mail....no customer name with it (and he had a couple customers who ordered them) no instructions. he said hey are unfinished. the caliber adaptors just rattle around inside and he doesn't know if there's suppose to be more parts with it. there were some loose orings in the box. basically said it looks like a complete piece of crap and recommends it not be used lol. No customers name ? Where's the paper work , they had to come with paper work and it better be referenced to a serial numbered Suppressor ! WTF , someone can go to jail for having unregistered Title II 's ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted April 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 yea, not exactly sure. he has 3 guys and himself that ordered. he's a pretty well known class 3 dealer and manufacturer though so he knows what he's doing. ill keep an eye on the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted April 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I actually received two of these today in the mail! The Form 3 (purportedly submitted over 6 mos ago) shows submission to ATF on 10/15/14 and approval on 11/23/14. Why it took them another 120 days to ship is beyond me. Better still. There's no indication who the cans are for!. There are loose O-rings in the box. There is no spring present to return the piston to rest position, on EITHER can. The piston flops around, back and forth, using a loctited-in set screw as a "guide" on the lobes of the piston. There is no finish on any part of the can. Baffle stack, outer tube, rear cap, piston...all "in the white". There are metal chips inside the cans. Honestly, I'm not sure whether to hope for mine to come through, or just be lucky I didn't damage one of my guns with this piece of poop. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 yeah, true, he has to have form 3s on them with serial #s. lemee look at a form 3 example, it may not have the purchasers info on it. If it doesn't and he is willing to give me the serial #s, I can find what person they are associated with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 there are supposed to be springs, the o-ring should go on the end caps. I really hate that investment group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 what I had heard as well from an ex-employee was that all the customer form 3'd ones were together (although not anodized) but that the investment group scavenged parts off already form 3'd ones to have more complete ones for the auction from the parts. I heard one guy got a tube and end caps only, no baffles even.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 That investment group is going to get into trouble doing what its doing with Title II transfers . If the dealer doesn't have a form three in his shops name or a form four for the buyers name , someones in possession of an illegal & unregistered Title II ! When I was class three , what ever I ordered come to my shops name & then had to be transferred to the Customer , so if the item was shipped to the Class Three dealer , there should be paper work for the Dealer & then transferred to the customer by form four . If I remember correctly . That is of course , if things haven't changed or there is a new or different way of doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Heads will roll over this - from an ATF standpoint, it's gotta be pretty exciting. This is classic "don't EVER do this!..." schit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 So would all of those have arrived with paperwork transferring them to the shop's name....and just not had the info of who the product is supposed to be tranferred to? If I understood SS properly, they first get tranfered to the shop....if that's the case I don't see the procedure being out of ordinary minus the fact they don't designate who the shop should transfer to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 So would all of those have arrived with paperwork transferring them to the shop's name....and just not had the info of who the product is supposed to be tranferred to? If I understood SS properly, they first get tranfered to the shop....if that's the case I don't see the procedure being out of ordinary minus the fact they don't designate who the shop should transfer to. They came with no paper work from what I read in the posts , doesn't matter who they are for . I would not accept a Title II registered item with out proper paper work . I have gotten them before & they were shipped back ASAP , after talking to who I was doing business with . I got one once , it was a British Sten gun , had Form three with it , but for another dealer & it was in the same box as the Class three Machine gun I was waiting for ! ( there's a good story about that ) Possession of an unregistered Class three item , you could get into big legal problems , not to mention jail time . You never know who may be monitoring these transactions . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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