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Two Identical Mags, one works the other won't ?


gadget228

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Bought two Magpul 10 round mags at the same time and one works fine and with the second one the round is never picked up and loaded, thought I saw a post about somebody else having this problem and it was the lever for the mag release that was causing it, suggestion was to switch to a Armalite lever, Does this sound right to anybody ?

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 Are they both Gen 3 Pmags ?   They are different in how high the mag sits in the mag well , the Gen 3's set the rounds in the mag , slightly higher .

    The Armalite AR 10 Mag catch has a deeper or higher pad on it where it locks into the Magazine & a longer threaded shaft . The pad on the Catch that protrudes into the Magazine to hold it in place may or may not help much with the Pmag , because they have a closed pocket for the catches pad to insert into , where a steel Mag has an open pocket , so the pad can go fully into it .  I have measurements of both the AR 10 & the DPMS & the pad size is the same with only the height of the pad being thicker , on the AR 10 catch ,as it will fit deeper into the mag  .

 The longer threaded shaft , helps to set proper tension on an 308AR .

 You can also , just have one bad mag . I just sent two Gen 3's back to them yesterday for a different reason , but the issue was the same .

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If you bought 2 pmags at the same time, one works and the other does not, you have 2 different pmags!  Carefully compare the two and return the one that does not work.  Specify the difference if you spot it.  Vendor should replace different product!

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6 minutes ago, E. C. said:

If you bought 2 pmags at the same time, one works and the other does not, you have 2 different pmags!  Carefully compare the two and return the one that does not work.  Specify the difference if you spot it.  Vendor should replace different product!

First welcome to the forum feel free to tell us about yourself in the intro section 

 

2'nd that's odd, both of them were the same gen? Few guys have had certain gens not work 

 

3rd this thread is a year and a half old and OP hasn't been here in a year

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shepp,

Thanks for the welcome.  I'm here because I have problems too.

The generation of the parts is beyond the scope of the problem. If you bought 2 supposedly identical parts from someone and they functioned differently, don't you think you would be in the right to ask them to replace the non-functioning part and let them get it right rather than chasing a bunch of specifications for some maybe part?

Best regards,

-ec-

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11 minutes ago, E. C. said:

shepp,

Thanks for the welcome.  I'm here because I have problems too.

The generation of the parts is beyond the scope of the problem. If you bought 2 supposedly identical parts from someone and they functioned differently, don't you think you would be in the right to ask them to replace the non-functioning part and let them get it right rather than chasing a bunch of specifications for some maybe part?

Best regards,

-ec-

Yes, but I would hope after a year and a half he's got his issue solved. Your issue is new and you can start a knew thread in the topic are it pertains to and we will help you the best we can there are a ton of knowlagable people here 

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14 hours ago, E. C. said:

Thanks for the welcome.  I'm here because I have problems too.

LOL, We've all got'em. Admitting to them is the first step.:lmao:

 

14 hours ago, shepp said:

Yes, but I would hope after a year and a half he's got his issue solved. 

On 9/27/2015 at 5:24 AM, gadget228 said:

Good news, I switched over to a Armalite magazine catch and all my magazines work now .

It looks like he got it covered.... almost 2 years ago... One of the many suggestions to new builders, both LR-308 and AR-10 formats.... GET THE AR-10A MAGAZINE CATCH!!!!

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I see where EC was coming from, but to further think about the OP's problem he had....what if the mag catch was the part that was out of spec? It obviously solved his issue, so is it possible that was the bad part?  Maybe. What if there was a tolerance stacking issue between all of the Frankenstein parts we use to build these rifles?  Could both Pmags actually have been within Magpul's specs?  Could the one that worked actually have been the "bad" one?

 

Point is, nothing in this world is truly a bolt together system. Especially in the large frame AR world. Look through this forum, that forum, take your pick....nothing but many guys experiencing issues. Some of them are very experienced guys having issues. In a perfect world all we would be here for is to BS and brag about the parts we bolted together. Sure there's plenty of that, but when you can solve an issue by trying out an inexpensive part that someone else has already learned "might" fix your problem....it's worth a shot 

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