Sisco Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) I was sizing some deprimed twice fired Remington 223 brass this morning when this happened after about 60. The rim bent and popped out of the shell holder. I rotated the die a bit to get some fresh shoulder, sprayed some lubricant in the die and tried to ease it out, and stripped again. Also the deprimer won't release after I unscrewed it. I have done 1500+ reloads off this die. And never had this happen in 40 years of reloading. I am guessing its time for a new set of small base dies. Edited May 24, 2017 by Sisco I tried to get it out with a vise grip wouldn't even budge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 I'd screw a long bolt into it from behind and then use pliers to pull it free. Maybe freeze it before you try to separate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted May 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 42 minutes ago, Robocop1051 said: I'd screw a long bolt into it from behind and then use pliers to pull it free. Maybe freeze it before you try to separate. Good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngrBob Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Both RCBS and Hornady make a kit to deal with this issue (ask me how I know). They are less than $20 and are available from any number of sources. Basically you get a drill bit to drill out the primer pocket, a tap to thread what is left, a bolt and spacer that when you screw into the case it is retracted from the die without damaging the die. I had that happen on one of the 308 cases I was resizing to 338 (not enough lube) and the kit I bought worked like a charm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 That's good to know. My redneck version would definitely leave a mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted May 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 hours ago, EngrBob said: Both RCBS and Hornady make a kit to deal with this issue (ask me how I know). They are less than $20 and are available from any number of sources. Basically you get a drill bit to drill out the primer pocket, a tap to thread what is left, a bolt and spacer that when you screw into the case it is retracted from the die without damaging the die. I had that happen on one of the 308 cases I was resizing to 338 (not enough lube) and the kit I bought worked like a charm. I will see about getting one. I just picked up a set of RCBS small base dies for $32 on Amazon, so I wonder if it is worth it, but you never know when it might happen again. This way I will have a backup set. Thanks for the feedback guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Try to use the De-priming rod as a press screw it in to push the case out , spray some penetrating oil in there & let it sit for a while first . You probably can't get the Rod assembly out because the case is too far in the Die , to get the neck expander past the neck sizing area . If using the Stem to push it out doesn't work , use the the screw in the Primer pocket method . Good luck , it sux for sure to get one stuck . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 12 hours ago, Robocop1051 said: Maybe freeze it before you try to separate. That was gonna be my only suggestion. Well, besides buying the stuck case remover from RCBS. That stuck case remover is basically a kit that uses 1/4x20 standard hardware to pull that thing out - you can make that from Ace Hardware stuff tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted May 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 12 hours ago, 98Z5V said: That was gonna be my only suggestion. Well, besides buying the stuck case remover from RCBS. That stuck case remover is basically a kit that uses 1/4x20 standard hardware to pull that thing out - you can make that from Ace Hardware stuff tomorrow. I was thinking that was a sex toy kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 39 minutes ago, Sisco said: I was thinking that was a sex toy kit. Well , to each their own . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 Get it out yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted May 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Nope. My Amazon Prime order of RCBS 223 small base dies showed up, along with my Lee 223 crimping die. My local hardware store didn't have a small enough bolt puller, so I have to run over to another one tomorrow. Until then it is sitting in the chest freezer. Then I will use it for back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbas4570 Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 If you really want to use a kit, I can send you mine. I just want it back when done. And they do work, and they are needed when you short yourself on lube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngrBob Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 On 5/27/2017 at 7:54 PM, Sisco said: Nope. My Amazon Prime order of RCBS 223 small base dies showed up, along with my Lee 223 crimping die. My local hardware store didn't have a small enough bolt puller, so I have to run over to another one tomorrow. Until then it is sitting in the chest freezer. Then I will use it for back up. Still waiting instead of spending the $18? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbas4570 Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 What is entertaining about this whole thing is that directly after posting my offer, I got out of my pickup and walked into a local sporting goods store to buy some supplies for myself. As I am standing there looking at the wall of reloading accouterments (the case removal tool kits right in front of my face) I started giggling to myself while thinking of just buying the necessary kit for you and mailing it. ....now a 6'2" hairy biker looking guy standing and giggling probably wasn't the best thing to do, as 3 sales staff were asking me if I was "finding everything alright?" In quick succession. Just a bit of dry humor from the weird side...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted June 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Funny. I found one and picked it up in Superior. Will work on it tomorrow. I have been busy , between an organization I belong to, and shooting up a bunch of reloads with my son after playing "musical scopes" on three of my rifles, and splitting next winters firewood now that my shoulder is pretty much healed. I tried a bolt puller, from the local hardware store and it wouldn't budge. Thanks for the offer Bubba, appreciate it man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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