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Keeping the Barrel Clean


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 Another from the Criterion Barrels News letter ., maybe some of these should be Pinned in a proper Section .

The Dirty Barrel Trend or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love the Cleaning Rod

Posted on:2017-11-01
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The Dirty Barrel Trend or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love the Cleaning Rod

“I don’t clean my barrel until group sizes start opening up.”

This line is becoming more and more prevalent in the precision rifle community. Theories fly about the internet on why shooters don’t clean their barrels. Common arguments include the importance of eliminating the need for fouling shots, disrupting the “bore uniformity” offered by copper fouling (spoiler alert: copper fouling buildup does not increase bore uniformity in hand lapped match grade barrels), fear of diminished barrel life due to overcleaning, and a general feeling of pride that their rifle has functioned reliably for x number of rounds without maintenance.

While I have always striven to keep my firearms well maintained and serviceable, an opportunity recently presented itself to compare barrel maintenance procedures between two nearly identical precision rifle barrels.

Earlier this summer one of my coworkers (Mike Ross) and I both constructed rifle builds of similar design. My rifle was built off a Tikka T3 action, while Mike’s rifle was built off a Surgeon 591. Both were mounted in Kinetic Research Group Whiskey 3 chassis and featured 22” salt bath nitrided 6.5 Creedmoor Criterion pre-fit barrels.
For a period of three months we put a fair amount of time behind our respective rifle builds (by our standards at least). We utilized the same ammunition (PRIME Ammunition 130gr. OTM) at a similar rate of fire. These rifles were used for industry demo shoots, local PRS matches, and general target practice (often fired side by side).

The only significant difference between these two rifle builds was how the barrels were maintained. Mike’s rifle was properly broken in, cleaned reliably after each use. Other than the barrel, my rifle was cleaned and lubricated, the action, bolt, and exterior components lightly oiled after each use. The interior of the barrel was not. Instead of taking care of the barrel as I normally do, I decided to put the new “dirty barrel trend” to the test, with no break-in period or regular maintenance. I figured with the salt bath nitride finish and its added corrosion resistance would render the internal finish virtually impenetrable to rust.

Drinking from the Kool-Aid of widespread keyboard commando lore, describing countless well-functioning but poorly maintained rifles, it would likely be thousands of rounds before I would notice group sizes opening up from excessive fouling, much less a failure in rifle function.

I was dead wrong.

It took three months and 700 rounds until I encountered my first failure to extract. A few weeks after my last range trip, I fired round #701 and placed the bullet exactly where it should have been zeroed. I then rotated the bolt knob and attempted to extract the round rearward. Nothing happened.

I then applied some additional rearward pressure. Nothing.

I yanked the bolt back on the third attempt with an extreme amount of force. The case popped out of the ejection port, landing a few feet away.

Investigating the cause of this extremely sticky bolt, I inspected the brass. Could it be a high-pressure round? The brass looked good. There was no cratering or flattening of the primer. There was also no ejector mark or any other signs of overpressure. During my inspection I did notice some slight variation in case body finish and texture, but didn’t think much of it at the time.

I decided to try firing another round. The bolt ran smoothly into battery, feeding the round easily. The second round fired. The steel target let out a satisfying ping. Through my scope I could see the second round impacted almost directly on top of the previous one.

The bolt required a Herculean effort to pull to the rear once again. Something was clearly wrong with this rifle. After inspecting the second round (Which also featured no pressure signs) I pulled the bolt out and inspected the extractor and ejector. Everything appeared to be well maintained and functioning properly with the bolt assembly.

As a former SAW gunner in the Marine Corps, I decided to try the classic field remedy for a non-functioning firearm. If all else fails, lubricate the hell out of it and try firing it again. Grabbing a bottle of CLP out of my range bag, I liberally lubricated the bolt, the action raceway, and the lug engagement surface.

I fired the rifle once more. The bolt was stuck once again.

Now convinced that the ammunition, receiver, and bolt assembly were not at fault, the barrel remained as the last variable in the equation. My forever unclean rifle barrel must have been the culprit.

The following day I brought my rifle back to the shop for a bore scope inspection. What I found during my first look down the bore simultaneously impressed and horrified me.

As I inserted the borescope into the base of the chamber it looked like the surface of Mars. Bright orange, craggy, and extremely uneven. As the saying goes, guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians. It was fairly clear that my barrel had been fighting a prolonged battle with the former.

But how could this be? I had never fired this rifle in the rain, although I had taken it out on a few humid afternoon range trips. The rifle was stored indoors in a climate controlled building between range trips, and had not fired any corrosive ammunition over the course of its life. While the rifle had been stored a few days in a Pelican case over the course of its use, it had spent the overwhelming majority of its service life stored muzzle up in a gun safe.

Even with the level of care taken to ensure the rifle wouldn’t rust, the humidity level inside the chamber must have been sufficient at one point to cause condensation, which eventually led to oxidation of the steel. A few lightly oiled patches run down the barrel after each range trip would likely have been sufficient to protect the internal surface of the chamber, but the “no cleaning” approach dictated that this was not to be the case.

I had also taken the added precaution of having the barrel salt bath nitrided to further protect it from rust and corrosion. Curious to confirm what effect salt bath nitriding has on the corrosion resistance of 416R stainless steel, I gave H&M Blacknitride a call to discuss this point further. Their Quality Manager confirmed my suspicions that the salt bath nitriding process does indeed serve to slightly improve the corrosion resistance of 416R stainless steel, as well as greatly improve corrosion resistance of 4150 chrome moly vanadium steel. I can only imagine how much additional rusting would have occurred had I left the steel of this barrel “in the white” and untreated.

Dismayed by the appearance of the chamber, I worked my way up the barrel to the shoulder, neck, throat, and rifling. I was surprised to discover that although the base of the chamber had rusted significantly, there was remarkably little fouling anywhere else.

This was further verified by running a pair of patches with Sweets 7.62 bore solvent (one a few minutes after the other), which left no blue or green residue on either patch. Another pair of patches of Rem-Oil (applied to neutralize the Sweets) left the patches a very light grey with minimal carbon fouling. One final dry patch was run through the bore upon completion of the initial cleaning session.

Copper and carbon fouling is normally minimal with Criterion salt bath nitrided barrels. This is partially due to the hand lapped finish of the bore, which is enhanced by the polished surface of the chamber and rifling. This serves to further reduce the friction coefficient offered by the salt bath nitride finish.

In order to alleviate future rusting and once again enable functionality of the rifle, I proceeded to polish the chamber aggressively. While some minor pitting remained, the rifle now cycles consistently and continues to produce tight groups. The rifle was taken to the range later that same afternoon, with the cold bore shot and subsequent five round group placing rounds directly on top of the rifle’s previous zero.

We had Mike bring his barrel in to verify that this rusting was indeed caused by improper cleaning procedures. As was expected, the inside of his chamber and rifling was bright and clean, with no fouling or corrosion found throughout the full length of the barrel.

Shooters that follow the no cleaning approach to barrel maintenance will likely continue to claim that lightly cleaning the barrel after each use leads to premature wear and causes fliers before the barrel is “properly fouled” once again. After my firsthand experience attempting this approach I’m inclined to respectfully disagree. I’ve learned my lesson to take the words of “social media precision rifle gurus” with a much larger grain of salt, and to stick to cleaning my firearm after each match or range session.

A dirty rifle will function well until it doesn’t. I feel much more comfortable knowing my equipment will operate as intended with each and every round fired, so from here on out I’ll be making a point to dedicate additional time toward regularly cleaning my firearms in order to cut down on corrosion and ensure proper function.

If you have any feedback or suggestions on this subject feel free to share it in the below comment section. We always welcome input, and would love to gain some additional knowledge from experienced shooters!

Edit: Some readers have expressed interest in simply cleaning and very lightly oiling the chamber after each use while leaving the rifling uncleaned. As there was no discernible rust or corrosion in the rifling this may be an interesting experiment to test on a later date.

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   Several different topics , just putting them all in Parts may be read by all . I wasn't sure if spreading them all out they would be seen & read , just wasn't sure where to put them ,  I guess the Head Spacing one could go to ,what you need to know ,in the 308 section .

     I posted three from their latest News Letter . Head Spacing , Chrome lined or Nitrate & this one , all in the General Section & maybe a good place to Post them , your call , you the man , they are pretty interesting reads. There is also some Videos from them around here some where , that I posted also , might be nice to keep them all together , they do push their Barrels in them :laffs:

 

     And you know I'm a fan !

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I'm curious :-). Some folks who are members of the gun culture seem to find out that their fingerprints will cause rust on guns during normal handling. They have said that when we were handling each others guns. Have you ever noticed that yourself ?? Handling the ammo could deposit something from fingerprints in the chamber when the ammo is fired ??

416 will rust...normally it is pinprick rust under grips on revolvers for example, but getting a heavy rust is unusual ??

Some stuff I have read guy had bores nitrided and got them back and had to clean them after the process themselves, it sounded very labor intensive cleaning the residue from the process out of the barrel. Pondering whether that left some kind of ferrous metal embedded in the chamber surface. A for instance would be buffing a stainless or aluminum part with a non stainless steel wire brush, it embeds ferrous metal into the surface of the metal.

Bill

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http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/barrel-nitriding-11-000-round-update.3795644/page-3

Post 48 in that thread details what folks go through that have a barrel done and it comes back without the "stuff" being cleaned out of the bore and chamber. Steel wool on a bronze brush works really nice for cleaning chambers (not saying the OP did that, maybe the mfg did) but it also might be a natural to leave plain steel embedded into the surface :-). Some folks will wind chore boy onto a brush too...which from what I saw might be copper plated steel.

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sounds very unnecessary to me. up until 4 or 5 years ago I used my grandfather's old rem semiauto in .308. I forget the model, but I looked it up from the serial number and it was from 1968. I took more deer with that rifle than any other rifle, even shot one at 320 yards. Now it wasn't the most accurate rifle but it was plenty good for deer hunting and was never made as a precision rifle. After that I hunted for 2 years with his bolt action .243 from 1972 because of a motorcycle crash I was in I wanted less recoil. This rifle is still amazingly accurate and I had no problems shooting 1 moa out of it at 100 yards, and I'm not even a good precision shooter. 

Now not only are these things old, but they spent years sitting in a glass rifle case with infrequent cleanings and lubrication. By the time I got my hands on them, I could see they were in need of some love and will never look like they did the day they came from the factory. But even so, they perform very well and I would never think of them getting re-barreled or treated anytime soon. I think if you start out with a good barrel on a good rifle, there is no need to get your bores nitride. But hey, if you got the money, go for it.

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5 hours ago, willbird said:

I'm curious :-). Some folks who are members of the gun culture seem to find out that their fingerprints will cause rust on guns during normal handling. They have said that when we were handling each others guns. Have you ever noticed that yourself ??

I wipe everything I have that's blued - with JB-80.  It neutralizes any acids present.  Blued firearm parts will never rust again.

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1 hour ago, 98Z5V said:

I wipe everything I have that's blued - with JB-80.  It neutralizes any acids present.  Blued firearm parts will never rust again.

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I was kinda born with a gun in one hand and a Micrometer in the other, and neither one of them ever rusted :-). Is it acidic sweat that the folks have who KNOW anything they handle will end up with rusty fingerprints on it ??

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