iitiimothyii Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 I have finished my ar build and I took it to the range to sight it in and it was cycling to fast pinching the round between the bcg and the barrel. I think i need a heavier buffer but cant find any adjustable or heavy rifle length buffers. Do you guys have any suggestions on what to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 If you are set on a heavier buffer, here you go. http://heavybuffers.com/ar10rifle.html Beyond that, tell us a little more about your rifle. It makes it much easier to know what else may be happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iitiimothyii Posted March 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 The rifle is in 308 with a 308 buffer system from aero normal mass bcg non adjustable gas block and a 16 inch barrel prs stock from magpul wilson combat barrel aero lower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iitiimothyii Posted March 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 I also have the adjustable odin works compensator on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 8 hours ago, iitiimothyii said: The rifle is in 308 with a 308 buffer system from aero normal mass bcg non adjustable gas block and a 16 inch barrel prs stock from magpul wilson combat barrel aero lower 7 hours ago, iitiimothyii said: I also have the adjustable odin works compensator on it Gonna need alot more details. With periods after sentences. Not gonna wade through mish-mash thoughts barfed onto the screen, at random. Went through that 15 years ago with ATV kids that couldn't complete a sentence, trying to diagnose why their quad wouldn't run right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iitiimothyii Posted March 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 16 hours ago, 98Z5V said: Gonna need alot more details. With periods after sentences. Not gonna wade through mish-mash thoughts barfed onto the screen, at random. Went through that 15 years ago with ATV kids that couldn't complete a sentence, trying to diagnose why their quad wouldn't run right. I have a 16" wilson combat barrel and intermediate gas tube. I have a rifle length buffer system, lower, upper, gas block designed by aero. I have a prs stock and mag designed by magpul. I am shooting 180 grain soft points made by federal. I also have the odin works adjustable compensator on the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, iitiimothyii said: I have a 16" wilson combat barrel and intermediate gas tube. I have a rifle length buffer system, lower, upper, gas block designed by aero. I have a prs stock and mag designed by magpul. I am shooting 180 grain soft points made by federal. I also have the odin works adjustable compensator on the barrel. Thank you, sincerely. Please give more details in the two things above, in the red and the orange. In the red, are all the parts in that sentence Aero Precision parts? For the orange, can you post a link to the adjustable compensator? How long is that buffer? It's either 5.200" long, or it's 5.900" long... Edited March 25, 2020 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iitiimothyii Posted March 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 On 3/24/2020 at 12:34 AM, 98Z5V said: Gonna need alot more details. With periods after sentences. Not gonna wade through mish-mash thoughts barfed onto the screen, at random. Went through that 15 years ago with ATV kids that couldn't complete a sentence, trying to diagnose why their quad wouldn't run right. Yes those parts are all by aero and this is the link to the compensator: https://www.odinworks.com/product_p/mb-atlas.htm the buffer is 5 and 5/16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 If that is your buffer measurement it’s off. Also don’t shoot soft point ammo in any AR with expectations of proper feeding. The feed ramps will catch the soft end of the projectile and cause you issues. If you’re going to hunt with them your better off hand loading into the chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted March 27, 2020 Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, iitiimothyii said: Yes those parts are all by aero and this is the link to the compensator: https://www.odinworks.com/product_p/mb-atlas.htm the buffer is 5 and 5/16 That's a fancy comp - take it off. Completely off. Shoot the rifle with a bare barrel - see what happens. That's either gonna point directly TO or eliminate that comp as a problem here. Remove it and shoot the gun. If that's really the length of your buffer, then it's too long, and that IS causing you some cycling problems. Make sure your measurement is right, with that 5 5/16". That's an issue (the issue), if that's it. You need to be running a buffer that's 5.200" long. Period. Rifle receiver extension is 9 11/16" internal depth, too - measure that, to see if they did something funky here. In the past, they've made carbine extensions that are suposed to be 7.000" internal depth - they've made them 7.100" internal depth, and that screwed with the function of one of my builds before I figured it all out. Edited March 27, 2020 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iitiimothyii Posted March 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 16 hours ago, 98Z5V said: That's a fancy comp - take it off. Completely off. Shoot the rifle with a bare barrel - see what happens. That's either gonna point directly TO or eliminate that comp as a problem here. Remove it and shoot the gun. If that's really the length of your buffer, then it's too long, and that IS causing you some cycling problems. Make sure your measurement is right, with that 5 5/16". That's an issue (the issue), if that's it. You need to be running a buffer that's 5.200" long. Period. Rifle receiver extension is 9 11/16" internal depth, too - measure that, to see if they did something funky here. In the past, they've made carbine extensions that are suposed to be 7.000" internal depth - they've made them 7.100" internal depth, and that screwed with the function of one of my builds before I figured it all out. If rifle reciever extension is the same as the buffer tube then yes that is my internal measurement(9 11/16") but the buffer after triple checking still measures 5 5/16". Do you have any experience with soft point causing issues and if so could you point me to your preferred deer/boar hunting round? But I'll go to a range this weekend and shoot without the compensator on to see how it functions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted March 27, 2020 Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, iitiimothyii said: Do you have any experience with soft point causing issues and if so could you point me to your preferred deer/boar hunting round? I have seen some pretty good size chunks of lead removed from soft points, it can be a pain to clean up and can't do much for accuracy. I would look at hollow points or any of the polymer tipped hunting bullets mout there, with all the choices no reason to use soft points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted March 28, 2020 Report Share Posted March 28, 2020 6 hours ago, iitiimothyii said: If rifle reciever extension is the same as the buffer tube then yes that is my internal measurement(9 11/16") but the buffer after triple checking still measures 5 5/16". Do you have any experience with soft point causing issues and if so could you point me to your preferred deer/boar hunting round? But I'll go to a range this weekend and shoot without the compensator on to see how it functions. You'll just be mad if you shoot this weekend, but try it out if you want. 5 5/16" for a buffer length is 5.313" long. Your buffer needs to be 5.200" long. That +0.100 thou too-long is causing you some grief. Hell, give it a shot - literally. That way, you'll know if it's the comp. That buffer length is an issue, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iitiimothyii Posted April 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 I cant seem to find any reasonably priced 5.2" buffers out there. Would you happen to know a company that makes them? Or would a heavy carbine buffer work just as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 4 hours ago, iitiimothyii said: I cant seem to find any reasonably priced 5.2" buffers out there. Would you happen to know a company that makes them? Or would a heavy carbine buffer work just as well Do you plan on changing the whole thing to a carbine recoil system? You absolutely cannot just drop a carbine buffer in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Here is one for $18. https://www.primaryarms.com/armalite-ar10-rifle-buffer-for-a1-a2-style-fixed-stocks-5-4oz-armea1090 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, iitiimothyii said: I cant seem to find any reasonably priced 5.2" buffers out there. Would you happen to know a company that makes them? Or would a heavy carbine buffer work just as well https://www.kakindustry.com/ar-15-parts/lower-parts/buffer-tubes-and-parts/individual-buffer-tube-parts/individual-buffer-parts KAK has got em all Wash Edited April 10, 2020 by washguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted April 11, 2020 Report Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Armed Eye Doc said: Here is one for $18. https://www.primaryarms.com/armalite-ar10-rifle-buffer-for-a1-a2-style-fixed-stocks-5-4oz-armea1090 That's a steal. And it'll work, too. Nice find, Doc. I love these first two statements in the "features" of this buffer... Quote Features: Standard 5.2" AR-308 rifle buffer 5.4 oz for proper cycling Edited April 11, 2020 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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