Social control so it begins

[392heminut]

8 hours ago, Sisco said:

Then I will be keeping my current Hemi truck for 300,000 miles.

I'm keeping mine for 300,000 miles too, but it's Cummins diesel.

[Sisco]

9 minutes ago, 392heminut said:

I'm keeping mine for 300,000 miles too, but it's Cummins diesel.

Your odds are better!🤣

[392heminut]

Just now, Sisco said:

Your odds are better!🤣

I dunno, if they go all electric in the next few years like they are pushing for we're both fukked!

[Sisco]

2 minutes ago, 392heminut said:

I dunno, if they go all electric in the next few years like they are pushing for we're both fukked!

Big mistake. From a pollution and precious metal standpoint, Hydrogen power makes more sense. Produces nothing but water vapor.

[392heminut]

Just now, Sisco said:

Big mistake. From a pollution and precious metal standpoint, Hydrogen power makes more sense. Produces nothing but water vapor.

To paraphrase Tommy Lee Jones in The Fugitive, 'They don't care!'

[DNP]

2 hours ago, Sisco said:

Big mistake. From a pollution and precious metal standpoint, Hydrogen power makes more sense. Produces nothing but water vapor.

Do you know how much electricity it requires to make hydrogen fuel?

[Sisco]

16 hours ago, DNP said:

Do you know how much electricity it requires to make hydrogen fuel?

Depends on the methodology. If demand was needed there are plans and techniques for utilizing solar arrays and using seawater as a base to separate the oxygen and hydrogen molecules. Still less energy and heavy metal contamination then large scale lithium battery production for electric cars. In addition fewer rare earth metals needed, which are a Chinese near monopoly right now. Plus the platinum and precious metals now for catalytic converters would be eliminated. There will be no perfect solution to this issue.

[Sisco]

19 hours ago, 392heminut said:

To paraphrase Tommy Lee Jones in The Fugitive, 'They don't care!'

Yep. It’s all about setting up a demand for something to maximize profit.

[Cunuckgaucho]

 

On 1/13/2022 at 6:15 PM, 392heminut said:

I dunno, if they go all electric in the next few years like they are pushing for we're both fukked!

It will be more than just you two getting fukked...

One thing that doesn't seem to get much discussion is the tax revenue generated by gas and oil. 

The taxes paid at the pump go towards to more than roads,the largest and most common diversions, found in 20 states, are those to transit and active transportation (pedestrian and bicycle projects).Ten states divert a portion of their gas tax revenue to law enforcement and safety services.

The 10 states diverting the largest percentage of their gas tax money: New York diverts 37.5% of its gas tax revenue, Rhode Island diverts 37.1%, New Jersey and Michigan divert 33.9%,  Maryland diverts 32.5%, Connecticut diverts 27%, Texas diverts 24%, Massachusetts diverts 23.9%, Florida diverts 13.6% and Vermont diverts 13.2%.

So where is government going to make up the lost revenue?

[jtallen83]

9 hours ago, Cunuckgaucho said:

So where is government going to make up the lost revenue?

Same places they always do, if we balk they just lay it off on future generations. 

One change I saw with Trump was the focus shifted to roads and bridges, before that we were putting in hike and bike trails so the road or bridge that needed work could get in on the money. So if the road or bridge was too narrow for a bike lane the funds could be used to rebuild at the proper width, I became pretty familiar with the regulations around those trails and how to exploit them to get real work done. 

[unforgiven]

10 hours ago, Cunuckgaucho said:

 

It will be more than just you two getting fukked...

One thing that doesn't seem to get much discussion is the tax revenue generated by gas and oil. 

The taxes paid at the pump go towards to more than roads,the largest and most common diversions, found in 20 states, are those to transit and active transportation (pedestrian and bicycle projects).Ten states divert a portion of their gas tax revenue to law enforcement and safety services.

The 10 states diverting the largest percentage of their gas tax money: New York diverts 37.5% of its gas tax revenue, Rhode Island diverts 37.1%, New Jersey and Michigan divert 33.9%,  Maryland diverts 32.5%, Connecticut diverts 27%, Texas diverts 24%, Massachusetts diverts 23.9%, Florida diverts 13.6% and Vermont diverts 13.2%.

So where is government going to make up the lost revenue?

That's easy create more taxes next thing is gas stoves. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/16/climate/gas-stoves-climate-change.html 

[DNP]

11 hours ago, Cunuckgaucho said:

 

It will be more than just you two getting fukked...

One thing that doesn't seem to get much discussion is the tax revenue generated by gas and oil. 

The taxes paid at the pump go towards to more than roads,the largest and most common diversions, found in 20 states, are those to transit and active transportation (pedestrian and bicycle projects).Ten states divert a portion of their gas tax revenue to law enforcement and safety services.

The 10 states diverting the largest percentage of their gas tax money: New York diverts 37.5% of its gas tax revenue, Rhode Island diverts 37.1%, New Jersey and Michigan divert 33.9%,  Maryland diverts 32.5%, Connecticut diverts 27%, Texas diverts 24%, Massachusetts diverts 23.9%, Florida diverts 13.6% and Vermont diverts 13.2%.

So where is government going to make up the lost revenue?

That’s why we’re moving to a milage tax here. And wouldn’t you know it, it’ll be 4 times higher when they implement it and I don’t think there is talk of killing the gas tax. They want $0.04 per mile. On my car that’s like paying $1.60 per gallon tax.