Texsun Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Hello Gentlemen, This is my first post here, so please go easy on me. I just purchased a stripped DPMS LR-308 lower. This is my first AR build and the objective is to build a rifle that will out shoot my buddies recently acquired RRA Predator. Particularly I would like your recommendations for a lower parts kit, trigger, and possibly a complete upper assembly (I have a little money to play with but don't want to break the bank)...Thanks in advance. Also please don't hesitate to point me towards old posts that would be pertinent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr3db3ar Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Welcome aboard. I'm sure plenty of good information is on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Hi Texsun Welcome aboard!Get you a lower parts kit minus the trigger....then get you a dpms 308 bolt latch as they have more meat than the ar15 latch. the trigger is a very important part of the build...so get ya a decent one.Ive got a geisele ssa-e triggerand also have a bunch of rock river national match triggers which I like...these are all two stage triggers......I know other members will jump in with their favorite triggers. Do you wanna build up your upper or buy one already put together? My vote is to build one up. Get the same brand upper to match your lower...looks better and has a better resale value...and in some cases fits better. On both my builds I used rainier barrels...they are off the shelf so no waiting and dead on tack drivers that dont break the bank...I like 18" in black...but this also depends on what you are going to be doing with it. I like mid length gas systems and this is what the rainier 18" is. Now pick out a floated rail a gas block some optics...a butt stock...and oh dont forget the 308bcg which are scarce as hens teeth...you need a muzzle device too...lol and go kick your buddies azz <munch> Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsun Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Ok, so here are my current plans/questions. I am going to get a DPMS lpk minus the trigger, but what trigger should I use? I was leaning toward one of the triggers that come as a complete unit, but if the geisele is better maybe I should use it??? Also I am most likely going to buy a complete upper, should I just go with DPMS or is there something better(no offense) that will fit just as well? Oh and what tools do I absolutely need(I have a good selection of normal handtools)?Thanks for the quick feedback Wash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Welcome from Indiana brother Texsun,you want to out shoot your friends Rock River? :cookoo:.... <laughs>... <lmao>... >:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Ok, so you want a trigger. I like two stage geisselle but not everyone will pay that price. Rra national match two stage have a good reputation but I understand they will wear out, how fast I don't know, but they are much cheaper. The best drop in unit seems to be the SR gold, on par with geiselle. It's definitely a personal preference type of thing. If you really want a drop in, I would bet SR gold is your best option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsun Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Welcome from Indiana brother Texsun,you want to out shoot your friends Rock River? :cookoo:.... <laughs>... <lmao>... >:DOh it will happen...Especially because he's not that good of a shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 This is my first AR build and the objective is to build a rifle that will out shoot my buddies recently acquired RRA Predator. You are gonna NEED a good barrel and good trigger. The RRA barrels that they put on their serious guns (his is one of them) are no-bullpoopy. They are great barrels. You're also gonna need something better than the RRA 2-stage trigger. Even if he's not a good shot, if those two components aren't better than what he's got - he might beat you... <dontknow>Factor in some money, and planning, for those two components. If not, you've already lost... :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired JM Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm with the others on the Giessle recommendations. I've got them on two of my rifles and they're money. A little spendier than an RRA, but worth it IMO.Instead of the DPMS LPK, I would go with an LPK from Daniel Defense, their stuff is trust-your-life-with-it bomb proof.You've made no reference to what sort of receiver extension you're thinking about - Carbine or rifle length. This decision will drive the type of buffer/buffer spring you use.As for tools, for what you're planning, common tools will work. The only AR specific tool you'll need is an AR10-sized combo wrench. Also, if you don't own a set of punches, I'd get one.With a DPMS lower, you really have a wide variety of upper receiver assemblies to choose from. Bear in mind that with a DPMS lower Armalite, Noveske, and RRA uppers are off the table; they will not work with your lower. The third leg of the accuracy triad, in addition to barrel and trigger, is ammo. You can't go into a competition with 1970's era Chilean surplus and expect to punch the x-ring. Experiment some and find out what load your rifle likes best. Good places to start are Federal 168 gr Gold Medal Match, Hornady 168/175 gr HPBT Match, and Black Hills 168/175 HPBT Match. Also, what's your budget for optics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 You can't go wrong with a Geissle trigger IMO also . the drop in complete units are good also. As said above , the barrel, ammo , trigger & you, will make or break a good shooting rifle. There are a lot of good barrel makers out there for the DPMS format, look into my favorite , Fulton Armory. There Krieger Criterion barrels are top of the line or one of them IMO & they also sell the std height, railed upper receivers also . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsun Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Gentlemen,Here are my current conclusions on this build. I am going to get a geiselle trigger, the SSA-E model listed for AR-15's. Daniel defense looks like it is out of lpk's, also they don't have one listed without a trigger. I would rather not pay for a trigger that I am never going to use. Can anyone recommend a heavy duty lpk that might not include a trigger? Also, the Fulton Armory M110 service rifle upper looks like it will suit my needs. As far as the receiver extension, I am looking at rifle length stuff. I read somewhere on here that armalite buffer springs are the best, are they worth ordering on their own? Optics budget is less than 500, and can anyone recommend some quality iron sights? Happy Shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I believe Armalite also has LPK's less trigger. They also have LPK's with significant trigger upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKSHEEP Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Gentlemen,Here are my current conclusions on this build. I am going to get a geiselle trigger, the SSA-E model listed for AR-15's. Daniel defense looks like it is out of lpk's, also they don't have one listed without a trigger. I would rather not pay for a trigger that I am never going to use. Can anyone recommend a heavy duty lpk that might not include a trigger? Also, the Fulton Armory M110 service rifle upper looks like it will suit my needs. As far as the receiver extension, I am looking at rifle length stuff. I read somewhere on here that armalite buffer springs are the best, are they worth ordering on their own? Optics budget is less than 500, and can anyone recommend some quality iron sights? Happy Shooting Troy battle sights are very good http://store.troyind.com/Micro_BattleSights_p/ssig-mcm-stbt-xx.htm if it were me i'd hold off on iron sights and put that money towards the best optic, for around $700 you could get a very nice Vortex or Weaver, I went with the Weaver because I like the reticle better, it's cheaper & reviews say it has better glass http://swfa.com/Weaver-3-15x50-Tactical-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P49448.aspx or http://swfa.com/Vortex-4-16x50-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44565.aspx , just my 2 cents ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwolf34 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Texsun I have also just started my first build and i went with the dpms lr 308 got the dpms lpk with trigger though from brownells if u are active duty military or law enforcement i would suggest brownells the have nice discounts. im pretty torn when it comes to the upper let me know if u find something great that complete upper im curious. the lower pk is fine but i have a buddy that is gonna work over the trigger to save on some $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsun Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Ok, so I decided to order an Armalite LPK with the upgraded trigger as well as receiver extension/buttstock stuff. It seems like a good way to save a couple bucks on shipping etc...That weaver scope looks pretty good...Also I reload so I am pretty well covered in the ammo category or will be after I collect some brass. Does anyone out there run that fulton service rifle upper? is it going to compare well to the RRA barrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsun Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Sorry for the double post, but I thought this thread could use an update. I received my armalite lpk and stock/buffer/receiver extension/etc. The bolt release from armalite doesn't want to fit and I still need the screw for it so I ordered a dpms lpk kit from midway last night. BTW if anyone is looking for a lpk kit midway has them listed for a lot cheaper than any one else right now. I should have a complete lower and pics in about a week or so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsun Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Ok, I got off the phone with Fulton a few minutes ago. The wait time has increased from 3/4 weeks from when I originally ordered my upper to 4/6 weeks now that 4 weeks has elapsed. >:( However, in this time I picked up some Troy battle sights and some ladder type rail covers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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