stinx Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Greetings, I am looking for advice as to what would be a good optic to mount on my 16 inch POF 308. I am looking for something that would work fairly close ,out to about 600 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Start with a budget then consider blowing it. Thats we're I started. Welcome aboard!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 I bought my scope with the same intention. I bought the Nightforce 2.5-10x34 LV 600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 2.5-10-42 Nikon was my budget glass but NF is the cats pajamas ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKSHEEP Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) As stated above give us a budget to work with, without knowing that I'll throw this out there. For the distance you specified this is a very good scope that wont break the bank ,NIKON M-308 http://www.policestore.com/optics-laser-sights/rifle-scopes/m-308-4-16x42-riflescopes-prod55012.aspx if your budget allows more check out the Vortex PST line and Weaver Tactical http://www.policestore.com/optics-laser-sights/rifle-scopes/viper-1-4x24-pst-rifle-scope-prod42369.aspx or Leupold Mark4 http://www.policestore.com/optics-laser-sights/rifle-scopes/mark-4-lr-t-rifle-scopes-prod42641.aspx http://swfa.com/Weaver-3-15x50-Tactical-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P49448.aspx Also are you looking for FFP or 2nd FP , MOA/MOA or MIL/MIL adjustments? Edited June 7, 2013 by BLKSHEEP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Ior valdada Trident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Ior valdada Trident The "Spartan" is really nice too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 I also own a mk 4 in addition to the Trident, it is an excellent choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinx Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 As stated above give us a budget to work with, without knowing that I'll throw this out there. For the distance you specified this is a very good scope that wont break the bank ,NIKON M-308 http://www.policestore.com/optics-laser-sights/rifle-scopes/m-308-4-16x42-riflescopes-prod55012.aspx if your budget allows more check out the Vortex PST line and Weaver Tactical http://www.policestore.com/optics-laser-sights/rifle-scopes/viper-1-4x24-pst-rifle-scope-prod42369.aspx or Leupold Mark4 http://www.policestore.com/optics-laser-sights/rifle-scopes/mark-4-lr-t-rifle-scopes-prod42641.aspx http://swfa.com/Weaver-3-15x50-Tactical-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P49448.aspx Also are you looking for FFP or 2nd FP , MOA/MOA or MIL/MIL adjustments? I am new to all this so I want whatever is going to be the simplest to use. I have a Leupold VXR Patrol on an AR its 1.25X4 I like this but thought it wouldn't be enough scope for a 308. Maybe I am wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OFP2651 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 See, for a 16" that goes out to 600 yds are you going to want something for close in as well? Because I would go different than all of these guys, I would go with an EOTech 512 with a flip up 3X Magnifier. Though I also shoot out to 500 yds with a 5.56 using iron sights... But that would be what I would go for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 See, for a 16" that goes out to 600 yds are you going to want something for close in as well? Because I would go different than all of these guys, I would go with an EOTech 512 with a flip up 3X Magnifier. Though I also shoot out to 500 yds with a 5.56 using iron sights... But that would be what I would go for. My Trident is 1.5-8x , and has a reticle ranged out to 800yds. A bit pricey though. It's for my MK12 .223 rifle, but they can come with a .308 setup as well http://www.valdada.com/scopes/tactical-scopes/1-5-8x26-35mm-tactical-scope-and-223-cqb-reticule If you plan on shooting out to 600, around a 10x would be optimum in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Check what the three gun match shooters are using, they go short & long . Most will be in the expensive kind though .To me any way. I know you get what you pay for , but I can never swallow the price of the top of the line scopes . I just can't bring myself to paying as much or more than the rifle I'm putting it on . Just me. I find what I need with Nikon or Burris . Again , just me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Most of the 3 gunners around here use a 1-4 power scope. The ones who are always playing the equipment race have moved up to the newer 1-6 power scopes. I like those guys, you can usually get some good deals on the stuff they are always replacing with the 'latest' thing! <lmao> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhouse Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 It's a damn disgrace, but my POF P-308 carbine wears a centerforce scope. I'm ghetto. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) My 16' has only had MBUS Edited June 9, 2013 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKSHEEP Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) No, you're not wrong, 4x isn't enough to get out to 600 yards effectively. The "so called" rule of thumb is 1x for every 100 yards. Imo that is a minimum, most people including myself prefer 2x for every 100 yards so using the 2x formula you would be best suited with a 12 power +- optic. There are plenty of 2-10,3-12,3-15x scopes with various reticles & other options to choose from depending on your budget. I recommend reading this> http://demigodllc.com/articles/practical-long-range-rifle-shooting-optics/?p=1 before you purchase anything. Then if you haven't already check out these websites... http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/scopes/rifle-scopes/index.htm http://swfa.com/Riflescopes-C1443.aspx http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=24&minprice=300&maxprice=2000&dimensionids=4294846258&dimensionids=4294846174&dimensionids=4294846271&dimensionids=4294845307&dimensionids=4294845822&dimensionids=4294846185&dimensionids=4294846281&dimensionids=4294846203&dimensionids=4294845805&dimensionids=4294845998&dimensionids=4294845915&dimensionids=4294846286&dimensionids=4294846153&newcategorydimensionid=11493 http://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-viper-pst-4-16x50-riflescopes.html http://www.opticstalk.com/rifle-scopes_forum2.html More info... An FFP scope has a reticle that changes size with magnification. The advantage of this is that with a reticle with sub tensions, such as a mil-dot reticle, the sub tensions (distance between markings) are always relative to the target size. In other words, if 2 mils covers the target @ 10X, 2 mils cover the target @ 5X. With an SFP scope, the reticle never changes size so zooming out to 5X would mean 2 mils would only cover half the target. The disadvantage of a reticle that changes size is that the hash marks (and sometimes the reticle lines) get hard to see at low magnification. However, most manufacturers allow for this by including thicker outer bars so that at low mag the scope functions like a typical duplex reticle. Another advantage because of the sub tensions always remaining relative to the target size is that no matter what the magnification is you can adjust the scope or the turrets based on what you see through the reticle. If you see that your shot was 2 mils to the left you can either move the scope over 2 mils to the right or dial in 2 mils of correction. This can be done on an SFP scope, but only on its ranging power. Mil/mil just means that the turrets match the reticle. It could just as well be MOA/MOA or something else. The advantage here is that you have fewer calculations to do because there is no need to convert from one system to another. The Vortex PSTs are good scopes backed by a reputable company with a great customer service reputation. You could go either way with the reticles and most buyers probably choose one over the other based on what they're used to. Personally, I prefer mils because I think the calculations are a little easier since mils are a decimally-based system. Mils are, however, somewhat coarser than 1/4 MOA clicks (1/10 mil = .36" @ 100 yards vs .26" for 1/4 MOA). In my experience, that hardly matters for most shooting applications. Edited June 9, 2013 by BLKSHEEP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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