unforgiven Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Or architects "if I can drawn it you can build it" They gotta be crackheads for sure.Yet,we make it happen if it takes every fukin dime that they got. <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 They gotta be crackheads for sure.Yet,we make it happen if it takes every fukin dime that they got. <thumbsup> Sounds like "engineers" who hand me prints that are impossible to cut due to interfering features. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 It used to be their were overlays where the trades would hash out conflicts in elevation and location.Now it's a Cad drawing.Problem is no ones comes to the site to verify elevations and locations.No one seems to know how to read a ventilaion drawing.Precut pieces are sent out and it's a klusterfuk,again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Sounds like "engineers" who hand me prints that are impossible to cut due to interfering features. LOL Yea those asshats too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Sounds like "engineers" who hand me prints that are impossible to cut due to interfering features. LOL Or the program writers with 3,000 extra operations needing to be edited out during the first runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted March 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 So nobody listened. The boss and the business owner paid the ransom to get the project completed to the level of what what we had already paid for. Today we get an email the software guys wants an additional 13 hours labor. This will be the 3rd time asking for more money for the same thing. To date we have spent $37k and have almost nothing to show for it. The figure does not include the upgrades to our ERP system that were required but not really. We have a prepaid support account. They bill us for every email. Typically $85 The insanity aside from us continuing to pay is the total disregard the dude has for his own written proposals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Is the boss' lawyer on vacation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 I Spent 40 years in corporate America. During that time I witnessed a degradation in the last 15 years of the decision making processes for projects across the spectrum. Whether they were software, construction, product launches, whatever. Inevitably it was tied to a complete disconnect between the people who actually did their jobs and successfully operated an organization, the Upper managers who usually didn't know the business as well as they thought they did, and the vendors or consultants who were the fair haired children of the above managers, yet did not have the hands on knowledge of the corporations own employees. Recommendations would be made, plans were drawn with orders for employees to slavishly follow or else, and the next year new plans would be instituted to try to fix the problems of the previous ones. The solution to these issues was invariably the same: Listen to your good employees, take and institute their recommendations, and acknowledge their importance to your success. Perform due diligence on vendors and consultants, and take it for what it is: Outside advice that is not necessarily the gospel truth. If I had two different recommendations, one from vendors/consultants, and the other from my employees, I would place far greater weight on the employees recommendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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