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^ What he said +1 <thumbsup>

Pride for a certainty, the people who formed DPMS were former employees of Armalite, who left to start up DPMS.

How about because Magpul PMags are so much better than DPMS magazines that there is no point in making a rifle that would use DPMS mags ?

Has anyone had experience with both ?

Okay, that does it now I need an avatar and it's all edgecrusher's fault

As an alternative to the 16 inch barrels you also might want to consider the 18 inch Criterion barrel from Fulton Armory, you may want to look at their line of rifles as well.

You mean the Department of Justice which Holder runs ? That does not fill me with confidence, especially regarding a gun grab. I threw in the National Guard because they were backup for NO PD. It is true that I do not know what is taught in police academies, but between my own observations and discussion with others about their experiences, either all too many LEO's are ignorant of the Constitution or chose to ignore it when it suits them.

The cops in New Orleans most certainly did. As did National Guard troops from several states. The sad unfortunate truth is that cops and soldiers are like every one else in the US, most of them do not know what the Constitution says. They will follow orders assuming that their leaders would not give them illegal orders.

That is O'Reilly's style not to let anyone else talk. I watched part of the video with him saying that, referring to AK's and AR's as "heavy weapons" I lost all respect for him then, not that I had all that much.

<thumbsup> <thumbsup> To both of you ! The more I look into this whole mess, the deeper I find the rabbit hole is.

The thing is, the FBI has staged things before, mostly "domestic terrorism" Do you really trust this govt. not to do something like this to further their agenda ? Between the timing and the details that don't quite add up, it smells bad.

There is no where else to go. I was born a free American, I will be one as long as I live.

Refund ? It's between semesters, and how many can pay for med school out of their pocket ? Loans and grants go back to the govt. don't they ? $20,000 is still a lot of money for someone on unemployment. And also some of that gear is kind of hard for non military or LEO to get.

This is stranger and stranger the more I look at it. How does a college student on unemployment get all that equipment and learn how to use it and set up boobytraps that the EOD guys say will take days at least to remove ?

From http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/6317 Ratification, however, is secondary to becoming a signatory to the treaty. Becoming a signatory carries its own obligations, which requires the U.S. to participate in the treaty under the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties. That is, we are legally obligated to do nothing to counter or otherwise interfere with this treaty while ratification is being considered, regardless how unlikely the prospect of ratification might be. Therefore, by simply being a signatory, the Obama/Hillary anti-gun, anti-second amendment position threatens our constitutional right to possess firearms for hunting or self-defense without even appearing to be antagonistic to the U.S. Constitution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosively_formed_penetrator If they can be made in backyards in the Middle East then Americans can make them.

^What they said +1 The only thing is that you will want one on every AR after you get one.

Only on open ground. Most people think they need to get out of cities to fight, but urban combat is much more favorable to guerrilla war.

Another thing about tanks and AFV's, break a track and nearly always the crew bails out, a tank that can't move is a vulnerable can waiting to be opened. Tracks are easy to break.

(GunReports.com) -- U.N. and global gun banners began their most recent attack on Second Amendment freedoms by including civilian arms in the proposed Arms Trade Treaty, which was called for in a resolution adopted by the U.N. General Assembly in 2009. A conference began this week in New York City to draft the treaty's language. The conference will run through July 27. Day one of the conference began with a stunning degree of inaction, as the meeting failed to formally convene for either morning or afternoon sessions. However, anti-gun groups are present in force and are insisting that civilian firearms be included within the scope of the ATT. Addressing the conference on Tuesday, U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon made an emotional speech calling for an ATT. He said, it was a "disgrace" that there is no treaty covering conventional arms (the implication being the inclusion of small arms) and that the world is "over armed." He also called for strict national legislation to control arms. Meanwhile, Norway made its opening statement and called for the scope of the treaty to include "non-military arms," a direct call that civilian firearms should be included within the ATT. Thursday's negotiations got off to a very slow start due to procedural issues, and adjourned late due to more of the same. Some countries did make statements that illustrated the deep divisions in the assembled body, especially over the issue of civilian firearms. While the New Zealand delegate stated that, "The task is not to regulate state's internal matters, such as conditions of domestic sales of arms or national systems of gun control or registration," the delegate from Mexico took the opposite tack, saying individuals' rights (i.e., the Second Amendment) are not an excuse for "products traded without controls." This statement continued Mexico's efforts to blame its drug cartel problem on American guns. The Mexican delegate then went on to say specifically that civilian firearms needed to be included in the ATT. The NRA will be present throughout the entire U.N. meeting and will provide frequent updates. In a joint position statement issued this week, French, German, British, and Swedish government officials said, "We believe that an arms trade treaty should cover all types of conventional weapons, notably including small arms and light weapons, all types of munitions, and related technologies.

So is the consensus to surrender and be good little slaves ? Artillery and aircraft are useful, but will they fire in cities ? Collateral damage is much like reprisals, for every 10 killed it causes 100 to join the resistance. As to fighting "our own" military, if they follow illegal, treasonous orders they are no longer my countrymen.

^ What they said +1^ SOLD means poop Out of Luck, Dummy

NFA 1934 was the first major step of this. Somewhere between 3% and 5% of the people fought in the Revolutionary War on the independence side.

Instead of being racist here is what it should say: “Are you buying this firearm with U.S. Government permission to provide it to death-dealing members of international drug cartels?”

The reason that they say to break in the barrel before having it Melonite treated is so the burrs from chambering it are removed, otherwise the burrs will be 70 RC and last a very long time.